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If Joe Calzaghe was American and black, would he be better respected?

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  • #71
    Originally posted by allucard View Post
    complete utter bull****. Tell me of a black fighter who has beat a kessler and a lacy and on those 2 fights + an undefeated record gets the right to headline mega pay per views in which he is very favored to win. The mind set is the complete opposite, people and the media demand these black cats to fight the hardest opponents they possibly can so they can lose and people get thrills on that. The effect of that is every single black fighter who has a good record is a darn good fighter, with most latins as well. You can't find a black sven ottke or a black joe calzaghe. People tend to compare calzaghe with floyd mayweather, another bs comparison, floyd was a 5 weight classes world champion who was fighting undefeated p4p king chico corrales when he was only 23! You can't find anyone doing this nowadays, anyone. Where was joe at 23 years of age? Probably further padding his record in the shadows (where people left him be putting no pressure over him) so he could pull a robbery in two fights against 2 40 year olds and be considered by some contract writers an atg? What to say about that when you have shane mosley around, who at 37 is a welterweight champion (and will defend his belt)? This is where boxing gets unfair.
    STANDING OVATION..!!!!!!!

    That is real word.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Electrode View Post
      You got that ass backwards..lol

      White fighters don't have to do **** but show-up..

      Look at Joe...

      Never has a fighter received so much praise for doing so very little.

      And it's all because he's White.

      The white US sports media isn't calling for a JOECOTT

      Remember the Roycott??????????


      Floyd Mayweather got stick for fighting a 34 Year old Del La Hoya(at 154 and Oscar's choice of gloves and ring size) Joe fought a totally SHOT Roy Jones and isn't getting nearly as much hate.

      Calzhage even SHOW-BOATED the old Legend..he didn't show any class or respect..

      AT LEAST Willie Wise had the class not to clown a shot Chavez..lol

      Joe get's away with being an under-achieving ***** because he's a white guy.

      You know it too..lol
      But Floyd isnt criticized for being a hype job or a **** fighter. He only gets criticized for being an ******* and only gets called overrated when people (like him) say that he is the "Goat." But even people like me who wouldnt piss on Floyd if he was on fire dont deny that he is one of the most talented fighters we have seen or that he is still the top fighter in the world. Where with Calzaghe, Hatton, Wlad, Vitali, Pavlik, ect people always claim that they are all overhyped and vastly overrated because they are white (or in some of their cases) not from America. Just some overhyped white boys fighting nobodies overseas. If any of those fighters was black they wouldnt get bashed as bad. Now Im not ****** enough to deny that these fighters get more television time because of the "Hey! It's a white guy that might bring in some white viewers!" concept, but as far as respect goes, they have to work twice as hard to not be "the great white hype." Not many white fighters get any respect on here, and the people who do respect them are called white loving racists.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Electrode View Post
        Yep...wow.

        You can't argue it.

        Name a Black fighter that can get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout???

        Joe actually did that!!!!!!!!


        Name just ONE Black Champion that could get away with a b*tch ass move like that.

        You can't.
        damn that is bad, i mean there is no excusing that

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Motofan View Post
          But Floyd isnt criticized for being a hype job or a **** fighter. He only gets criticized for being an ******* and only gets called overrated when people (like him) say that he is the "Goat." But even people like me who wouldnt piss on Floyd if he was on fire dont deny that he is one of the most talented fighters we have seen or that he is still the top fighter in the world. Where with Calzaghe, Hatton, Wlad, Vitali, Pavlik, ect people always claim that they are all overhyped and vastly overrated because they are white (or in some of their cases) not from America. Just some overhyped white boys fighting nobodies overseas. If any of those fighters was black they wouldnt get bashed as bad. Now Im not ****** enough to deny that these fighters get more television time because of the "Hey! It's a white guy that might bring in some white viewers!" concept, but as far as respect goes, they have to work twice as hard to not be "the great white hype." Not many white fighters get any respect on here, and the people who do respect them are called white loving racists.
          Floyd gets slammed for not fighting Margarito..Cotto...Williams...clottey..and everybody since John L Sullivan..

          Floyd could not get away with fighting the loser of an elimation bout the way Joe did..

          Joe gets to duck Dawson and people support it..the White media included.

          Did the White media push for Calzhage to fight Dawson the way they pushed for Floyd to fight Cotto or Tony????

          NOPE

          Joe gets a free to duck pass...a free to fight washed-up champs pass..

          Black fighters don't get to coast and boast while not proving ****.

          It's not our fault white fighters don't get respect..maybe you should take a hard look at the quality of today's white fighters instead of crying about the praise Black fighter get..and earned..and deserve.

          White boxing is in trouble if ya'll think Joe Calzhage is a great fighter.

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          • #75
            Which fighter was this btw? The loser of the elimination bout?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by *Hagler* View Post
              damn that is bad, i mean there is no excusing that
              There's not a single Calzhage fan that can justify such a blatant act of RANK COWARDICE.

              A Black fighter would have been laughed competely out of boxing for pulling a gay-ass stunt like that.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Butterball View Post
                Which fighter was this btw? The loser of the elimination bout?
                Echols/Brewer was an eliminator for Joe's belt.

                A Black fighter would have been required to fight the WINNER.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Electrode View Post
                  Echols/Brewer was an eliminator for Joe's belt.

                  A Black fighter would have been required to fight the WINNER.
                  Why didn't he fight Echols? Is there a link?

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                  • #79
                    Calzaghe-Dawson would have been a huge mismatch.
                    Dawson proved to be an ordinary fighter against Johnson.
                    You can't be ordinary and beat Calzaghe, that's why nobody cares fight.
                    Calzaghe beat everybody there is to beat, true boxing fans acknowledge that and respect that.

                    There will always be haters, but Calzaghe shut them up by retiring undefeated and basically toying with the Americans in their own backyard, that's what grinds their gears and that's what makes me happy.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Electrode View Post
                      There's not a single Calzhage fan that can justify such a blatant act of RANK COWARDICE.

                      [B]A Black fighter would have been laughed competely out of boxing for pulling a gay-ass stunt like that.
                      A black fighter cannot go through Calzaghe's resume undefeated.

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