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  • KostyaTszyu44
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    #31
    the cubans train their amateurs solely to do well in the amateurs, unlike the US which trains their amateurs to do well in the olympics etc but with the long term goal of turning pro
    im not saying they wouldnt do well, they have talent coming out of their asses, but it would take a while before they started to dominate as they would have to start training very differently

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      #32
      Mexico was ruined by Pacman. He defeated Eric Morales, Barrera, Diaz, and Oscar De La Hoya. Than Donaire knocked out Vic, and Vic beat up Mijares and Arce. Followed by Solo Boxeo retreating to Azteck America like grown babies. Afterward, Mexico got their comeback win by giving Margarito (the pawn), Plaster of Paris, who had a short regin on the top pound for pound list until Sugar Shane Mosley. I know I mixed the order up, but it's late.

      Pinoys defeated the Mexicans already, they should no longer fight each other for a long time. Pacman should face Miguel Cotto for rights to a Mayweather match.

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      • El Chicano
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        #33
        Originally posted by iwatchboxing
        mexico was ruined by pacman. He defeated eric morales, barrera, diaz, and oscar de la hoya. Than donaire knocked out vic, and vic beat up mijares and arce. Followed by solo boxeo retreating to azteck america like grown babies. Afterward, mexico got their comeback win by giving margarito (the pawn), plaster of paris, who had a short regin on the top pound for pound list until sugar shane mosley. I know i mixed the order up, but it's late.

        Pinoys defeated the mexicans already, they should no longer fight each other for a long time. Pacman should face miguel cotto for rights to a mayweather match.

        ...............................what?

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        • KJB
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          #34
          Originally posted by Perro
          They would top Puerto Rico, they would top the U.S., they would top Europe! They MIGHT EVEN, but that's a BIG might, even top Mexico.

          What are your all thoughts?
          No, they wouldnt. Two reasons/
          1) Cubans dominate the Amateur ranks, a lot of **** does not fly in the Ams that does in the pros. Also, Am fights are 4 rounds, 2 minutes each. You put them in for 12, three minute rounds with a salty veteran and that would get rid of a lot of them.
          2) Part of what makes the Cubans so good is their Spartan lifestyle. They train at boxing academies, they focus almost their entire self into being a great fighter all day every day. That and they are dirt poor, and hungry as hell to win. If you start giving them big paychecks, the Spartan lifestyle wanes, and we see more Ricky Hatton types, partying and living it up while only focusing as much during training camps.
          If Cubans were all allowed to go pro right now, the ranks would swell with Cuban fighters. We would not see, however, as many Cubans rising to the elite level as some might think. Some would make it, many would fail.

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          • lefthook2daliva
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            #35
            Nah...cause' they'd never get the money. Castro's croneys would pocket their winnings...

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            • El Chicano
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              #36
              Originally posted by KJB
              No, they wouldnt. Two reasons/
              1) Cubans dominate the Amateur ranks, a lot of **** does not fly in the Ams that does in the pros. Also, Am fights are 4 rounds, 2 minutes each. You put them in for 12, three minute rounds with a salty veteran and that would get rid of a lot of them.
              2) Part of what makes the Cubans so good is their Spartan lifestyle. They train at boxing academies, they focus almost their entire self into being a great fighter all day every day. That and they are dirt poor, and hungry as hell to win. If you start giving them big paychecks, the Spartan lifestyle wanes, and we see more Ricky Hatton types, partying and living it up while only focusing as much during training camps.
              If Cubans were all allowed to go pro right now, the ranks would swell with Cuban fighters. We would not see, however, as many Cubans rising to the elite level as some might think. Some would make it, many would fail.
              Just cuz Cubans are good in the Amateurs means they would suck in the pros? What about Oscar, what about Leonard, what about Foreman, what about Frazier, what about Ali???

              All Gold Medalists. Just cuz they were good Amatuers means they shouldn't have been good Pros? is that what ur saying???

              You all are idiots.

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              • El Chicano
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                #37
                Originally posted by KJB
                No, they wouldnt. Two reasons/
                1) Cubans dominate the Amateur ranks, a lot of **** does not fly in the Ams that does in the pros. Also, Am fights are 4 rounds, 2 minutes each. You put them in for 12, three minute rounds with a salty veteran and that would get rid of a lot of them.
                2) Part of what makes the Cubans so good is their Spartan lifestyle. They train at boxing academies, they focus almost their entire self into being a great fighter all day every day. That and they are dirt poor, and hungry as hell to win. If you start giving them big paychecks, the Spartan lifestyle wanes, and we see more Ricky Hatton types, partying and living it up while only focusing as much during training camps.
                If Cubans were all allowed to go pro right now, the ranks would swell with Cuban fighters. We would not see, however, as many Cubans rising to the elite level as some might think. Some would make it, many would fail.
                Spartan Lifestyle, lol.

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                • KJB
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                  #38
                  Are you serious, bro? I generally like you, Perro. You speak your mind and usually think things through.
                  So I am an idiot because I have a rational reason for not agreeing with you?
                  And did I say that being a successful amateur fighter means you wont be successful as a pro?
                  Cubans are trained from the ground up to be successful in the AMATEUR ranks. The American fighters you mentioned are trained to be as successful as then can as Ams and eventually break pro ranks, that is a fact.
                  The Cuban "Spartan lifestyle" I alluded to is also a large part of their success. If you dont believe me, ask anyone who knows anything about Cuban boxing.
                  It would be a good idea to actually think about the oppositions point of view before calling them an idiot, Perro.
                  Lets put it into simpler context, would the recent LHW Olympic Champion beat Chad Dawson if they were to sign the fight tomorrow? Everyone knows the Olympian would be a HUGE underdog, hence the reason promoters take the time to develop successful Amateurs under Pro ranks.

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                  • KJB
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Perro

                    All Gold Medalists. Just cuz they were good Amatuers means they shouldn't have been good Pros? is that what ur saying???
                    If that is really what you got from my post you are in no position to call me an idiot.

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                    • Silencers
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                      #40
                      It's hard to say, there are a lot of very good Cuban amateur boxers but it's almost impossible to say how they would adapt to the pro style, people are forgetting that there have been quite a few hyped Cuban amateur stars who turned out to be only decent pros, like Ramon Garbey, Jorge Luis Gonzalez and Yan Barthelemy.

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