Haye was never "undisputed" cruiserweight champion

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  • The Hammer
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    #21
    Originally posted by street bully
    Only 3 million? man the glamour division of boxing has gone to ****.
    Still A LOT compared to Haye's tiny paydays at cruiserweight.

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    • Emanuel Steward
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      #22
      Originally posted by Gene Tunney
      Jones was a cruiserweight contender who Haye ducked, Guillermo fought other top cruiserweights like Cunningham.

      Adamek moved up to cruiser after his fight with Dawson, over a year before Haye moved up to heavyweight.
      He eats people like you mentioned for breakfast. Cunningham would have had his chin checked within 1 min against Haye.

      Macca is the best in the division now Haye has gone. He'll beat any of the other fighters there - I'd stake anything on it. Adamek is probably the best out of the lot - but Macca I am pretty sure would UD him. He is a very complete boxer.

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      • street bully
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        #23
        Originally posted by Gene Tunney
        Jones was a cruiserweight contender who Haye ducked, Guillermo fought other top cruiserweights like Cunningham.

        Adamek moved up to cruiser after his fight with Dawson, over a year before Haye moved up to heavyweight.
        Adamek has proven that he is a true cruiserweight, but did you honestly expect Haye to fight a man who up to that point was known for being schooled by Dawson and chased out of the LHW division?....

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        • hammerhiem
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          #24
          Originally posted by Gene Tunney
          No, you are undisputed when you've beaten the top fighters in your weight division.

          Haye never fought the IBF champion at the time, Steve Cunningham.
          In the History of Boxing two fighters have held all four belts.

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            #25
            Originally posted by street bully
            Adamek has proven that he is a true cruiserweight, but did you honestly expect Haye to fight a man who up to that point was known for being schooled by Dawson and chased out of the LHW division?....
            lol. Very true. Respect for Adamek though - I was very impressed with his performace against Cunningham. Very measured fighter.

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            • warp1432
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              #26
              Originally posted by Gene Tunney
              Jones was a cruiserweight contender who Haye ducked, Guillermo fought other top cruiserweights like Cunningham.

              Adamek moved up to cruiser after his fight with Dawson, over a year before Haye moved up to heavyweight.
              And Adamek didn't fight Bell, a serious Crusierweight contender (Who by the way, Mormeck beat) until April 19th. Haye had already moved up by then.

              Guillermo Jones was not even ranked in the top 10. He had lost to Cunningham. There was no demand for Cunningham-Haye at the time when Enzo-Haye was being discussed. Everyone wanted to see Enzo-Haye.

              Mormeck was the champ of the division. He had beaten the best in the division and proved his worth. Haye beat him. Haye becomes the champ. It's simple.

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                #27
                Originally posted by warp1432
                Mormeck was the champ of the division. He had beaten the best in the division and proved his worth. Haye beat him. Haye becomes the champ. It's simple.
                Mormeck was old and shot after his two wars with O'Neil Bell, yet still he managed to knock Haye down. He was ahead in that fight until Haye got him with the rabbit punch.

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                • Emanuel Steward
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Gene Tunney
                  Mormeck was old and shot after his two wars with O'Neil Bell, yet still he managed to knock Haye down. He was ahead in that fight until Haye got him with the rabbit punch.
                  lmfao 'rabbit punch'.

                  This is disgraceful bait.

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                  • Davros?
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                    #29
                    Haye was the undisputed champ he held the WBC WBA WBO and ring magazine titles, He beat the best Cruiserweight in the world at the time Jean Marc Mormeck, He beat the Current WBC champ Fragomeni he beat top contender Gurov, and sorted out business at home by beat enzo.
                    Adamek had only been at cruiserweight a short time and was coming of a loss to Chad Dawson, Cunningham had a fight for the vacant IBF title against Wlodarczyk which he lost then he won in a rematch in 2007 so he was merely a paper champ, Guillermo Jones was coming of wins against Jeremy Bates and Zack Page.
                    Terrible thread unless its a joke.

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                    • The Monk
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                      #30
                      Haye puts Adamek in a coma, Arslan on a stretcher, Jones to bed and Cunningham on ***** street.

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