..FERNANDO VARGAS: Too Much Heart, Too Much Fight...

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    Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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    ..FERNANDO VARGAS: Too Much Heart, Too Much Fight...

    A lot of times, when a fighter, ESPECIALLY a young fighter, has too much of anyting it's a bad thing. When you have too great of a chin, it can damage you. When you have too much power, you can rely on it too much. When you have too much speed, you can work with your reflexes for too long and can cost you down the road. But, in my opinion, the worst thing to have too much of is HEART. Too much fight in you.

    That's exactly what Fernando Vargas had. Too much hear.

    As an amateur, he went 100-5 and had some incredible credentials. In 1992, he won the 132 lbs. championship in the Junior Olympics. He was a triple crown amateur in 1995, winning the Junior Box-Off, Junior Olympics and International Junior Olympics. He won a bronze at the Pan-Am games. He made the 1996 Olympic team, only to lose a controversial decision in the second round. He was also the youngest to ever win the U.S. Championship.

    Once he turned pro at the age of 20, he went on an impressive KO streak that lasted 17 fights, ending with Winky Wright, where he won a majority decision. However, he continued to win and was undefeated up until he fought the great Puerto Rican fighter, Felix Trinidad. He was 19-0 before Tito.

    He beat Yori Boy Campas for the title in his 15th pro fight. He was the youngest champion in history, winning a world title at the age of 22 years old. Stopping him and going on to stop Raul Marquez as well. After Winky Wright, he also beat Ike Quartey, even more convincingly than Oscar De La Hoya, in most peoples minds.

    His problem was when he was thrown in with the wolves, fighting Felix Trinidad at such a tender age and fighting with his heart and not his brain. Realistically, he's a better BOXER than Trinidad, but during that fight, you couldn't see it. He fought moronically and tried to out punch the puncher.

    You must give credit to Vargas for hurting Tito and getting in his shots. However, he tried for the KO too hard, fought with an attitude of 'I'll go out on my shield' and didn't even seem to try and box until it was too late. Though you could make the argument that Trinidad went low on purpose and stopped Fernando's momentum, the fact remains that he fought the wrong fight, regardless.

    After Trinidad, he was never the same. He was damaged goods. He had trouble with weight his whole career, but it began to take over. He took a couple of gimmies and then went right for De La Hoya. He did well enough for the first 8 or 9 rounds, but ended up getting stopped in that fight, as well. The effects of the Tito fight showing up, and his heart being too involved in this personal battle. In his last five fights, he went 2-3, beating Raymond Joval, Javier Castillejo and then losing two straight to Shane Mosley, both by stoppage and losing his final fight to Ricardo Mayorga by decision. The only fight he lost in that fashion, way out of his prime.

    Here's the sad part. He fought in only 8 title fights, losing his two unification fights with Trinidad and De La Hoya. He had 4 stoppages within his wins. He fought such great competition, so early. Within a span of ten fights, he fought Campas, Marquez, Wright, Quartey, Trinidad and De La Hoya, going 4-2 with the six. He ended his career on a bad note, losing to a much less talented fighter and he had a relatively short career, tracking about ten years.

    He could have been so much more if he was just a bit smarter, and moved up just a bit slower. Nonetheless, he gave us a great decade, fought the best and never ducked a man. Say what you want about his 'cheating,' his antics out of the ring, his disrespect of opponents. He was a fight-fans fighter.

    Much respect to Fernando Vargas, and much thought into who he could have became.

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  • KostyaTszyu44
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    #2
    yeah vargas got thrown in too early

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    • Silencers
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      #3
      He could have achieved way more than he did had he not fought Trinidad so soon, plus his weight fluctuations and injuries didn't help him in any way. I'd say a 5 or 6, great potential but he never lived up to his potential.

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      • Libido Sanchez
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        #4
        That was an excellent read. Thank you for writing that up.

        I remember how much I wanted Vargas to kick Tito and DLH's ass... but, sadly, it didn't happen. But it was the pure heart you speak of that kept him in the Trinidad fight after getting leveled early. I just remember Vargas saying he was gonna show the world what a real Mexican is like and that he wouldn't run like DLH did against Tito, and he didn't.

        Boxing is a double-edged sword. So many of us wish every fight could be like Corrales vs. Castillo I, but it definitely takes it toll. I'll always be thankful to Vargas for not having a "protected" career. But, like you pointed out, that's the very reason he didn't have more success and took a lot of punishment in the process.

        Taking hard punches in the Heavyweight Division is probably the most dangerous thing in boxing. Yet, you wish that the current guys would fight at least with 1/2 the heart of Vargas.

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          #5
          I rated him a 6 by the way, has a couple of good wins (winky, quartey) and some very good names on his resume. However, devastating knockout losses to Trinidad, DLH, Mosley x2 bring him down a bit. Plus it wasnt just the devastating losses that ruined his potential but weight troubles and injuries

          Yeah he was just thrown in with tito way too early, but if i was a young fighter who got a chance thrown at me like that I'd take the fight too

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          • KJB
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            #6
            It was a generally great career. He could have gone farther if he had been better managed and more disciplined.

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            • Tha_Greatest
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              #7
              What people always fail to see is after Vargas war with Trinidad ,Trinidad also became damaged goods, he never could win a big fight any longer, he got kod by hops, got schooled by winky and mayorga fight was and is a fight that mayorga is there to lose, Vargas for his short boxing span did achieve a lot for his shortened career, Vargas and trinidad were never the same, too much heart

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              • Hagler★
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                Im not a massvive Vargas fan but I appreciate and respect what he did, like it was said he did tend to fight off hear when he should have boxed and I think that is part of his LA as well as Latin background.
                His weight problems did seem to be a discipline based problem but like i said i respect and appreciate his exploits in the ring so from me he gets a 7

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  #9
                  Vargas had a dodgy chin imo. I mean lets be honest he was knocked out by 3 welterweights.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by *Hagler*
                    Im not a massvive Vargas fan but I appreciate and respect what he did, like it was said he did tend to fight off hear when he should have boxed and I think that is part of his LA as well as Latin background.
                    His weight problems did seem to be a discipline based problem but like i said i respect and appreciate his exploits in the ring so from me he gets a 7
                    Balanced response from essentially a non-fan. Ironically, voting while using your head and not your heart. He could have learned from you. Lol.

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