Klitschko vs. Haye is Falling Apart, Negotiations Suspended

[Dave Rado]

I don't understand this notion that Klitschko was being "nice to Haye" by even contemplating a fight with him or that Haye is undeserving. I mean, where were these posts a few months ago when Wladimir gave Hasim Rahman an early christmas gift?

I don't know who's to blame but it would be a shame if this fight doesn't come off. Not because I'm a Klitschko nuthugger, not because I'm a Haye nuthugger but because I'm a FAN. And this is about one of the only fights at HW that interests me. So for those who seem almost happy that negotiations have stalled, shame on you. We need this for the sport.

Exactly. I just don't understand the posters who say they're glad it's off.

[The Hammer]

Why is being biased something to be proud of. Being biased means not being interested in the truth. That doesn't strike me as something one should be proud of.

Okay some of those posts you linked to were biased, but none are anything like hate posts.

The fact that you're defending someone who admits he hates Slavic boxers (quote: "I admit I hate those communist conks") and attacking a woman who is a Klitschko fan reveals your bias.

Here's an old thread of Duffgun's:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155054&highlight=communist+conks&page=3

Duffgun quote in that thread: "I have never criticized lewis because there are not constantly threads on him. I do admit to hating those communist conks."

[Dave Rado]

The fact that you're defending someone who admits he hates Slavic boxers (quote: "I admit I hate those communist conks") and attacking a woman who is a Klitschko fan reveals your bias.

Edit: Okay I've seen that thread now about the "communist conks", but how do you know it's the same person? I have already said that if that's true, that's awful, and that I despise racism and I dislike all hate posts. I haven't defended him, only some of his posts, based on what he actually wrote in those posts, which is not the same thing at all. One of the posts Vit ****s linked to didn't show any bias, and I just pointed out that she had misunderstood it.

I am not attacking her personally at all, only criticising some of the specific things she has said; and I am certainly not criticising her because of the fact that she's a Klitschko fan. I have a lot of respect for the Klitschkos.

[Love Tunney]

Why is being biased something to be proud of? Being biased means not being interested in the truth. That doesn't strike me as something one should be proud of.

Okay some of those posts you linked to were biased, but with the exception of the last one, none of the rest are anything like hate posts. And the first one you gave isn't even biased. It said:

Ok so almost all the Vitali fans think Haye is a bum so if this is the case Vitali should get no credit what so ever from you guys if Vitali does win.

Don't you understand that post is just saying that if Haye is completely useless, as some people keep saying he is, that means no-one who beats him can get any credit for beating him, because they would only have beaten a bum? That's just a statement of fact. If you really think that post shows any hate for the Klits, you're completely misunderstanding it.

And show me just one post of mine that's genuinely totally biased towards Haye. I've never even said I think he'll win.

No the difference is I am honest, you're not.

You are biased because you nuthug all the Haye fans and defend them
While correcting the Klit fans. Don't ask me to go through your post
history, I can't be bothered, You do it and you know you do.

[southpaw_07]

Excellent, i hope its off.
I would love to see Haye vs Arreola though, that's set up for some serious action, trust me on that one.

[The Hammer]

Edit: Okay I've seen that thread now about the "communist conks", but how do you know it's the same person?

I've been defending the Klitschkos from Duffgun/Davros since I joined up in 2007. He doesn't deny he's the same person.

There's a thread in the thunderdome where he made the new account after being banned for posting the **** symbols.

[FreshPrince]

I can't say I'm upset. I'd like to see Haye go after the WBA belt, and I wouldn't mind Klitschko ko'ing Arreola because it will most likely be at the Staples Center.

[The Hammer]

No the difference is I am honest, you're not.

You are biased because you nuthug all the Haye fans and defend them
While correcting the Klit fans. Don't ask me to go through your post
history, I can't be bothered, You do it and you know you do.

Yes, what's more annoying than the self-confessed Klitschko haters like Randall Hopkirk and DiegoFuego, is the DISHONEST people who claim to be objective and fair, yet always side with the haters against the Klitschko fans.

[Kastrioti]

I've lost hope in boxingscene.

People actually think the Klitschkos are scared of Haye. I'm not even gonna bother replying to that.

[$partacus]

Haye wants the UK tv rights and Wlad gets Germany and America rights, That don't seem like a bad deal to me, Wlad would get nothing from the UK if he fights anybody else anyway and would have to pay them out of the German and US rights which he gets to keep if he fights Haye.