Originally posted by Winter
This is why Toney is the Best HW out there
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All these people just hate Toney and would never give him credit no matter what he does.Originally posted by WinterI wonder what people would say if Vitali fought Booker and had the same performance like Toney, winning in a decision. I wonder if people would say Vitali is doing well.Comment
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What does this have to do with if they should have KOed him or not? How do you know how hard these guys punch. For what you think of Booker, he should be one of those guys, so that contridicts your whole argument. You think of him as a C/D fighter like the people he has beaten. Face it, Booker has a good chin and isn;t an easy guy to KO.Originally posted by NeuraxisWho has Booker faced who should have KO'd him? Booker's opponents not counting Toney have a dismal 19-77-2 in their previous 6 fights before fighting him. Do I need to repeat that? I will anyways. 19-77-2. If Booker were not a C/D level fighter he should be walking through his opponents with ease and SD them like he did with his previous opponent who is 13-9. Losing 1 or 2 rounds to a C/D level fighter is not very good.
Do you think Wlad would have gone down from James' punches last night?Comment
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Yesterdays fight was the first time I had ever seen Toney before. I had never seen him before, only heard of him. I did not watch the fight alone, I watched it with other people. One of the people said Toney reminded them of Frazier. I have heard of Frazier, and I know he was good. Do you think Toney is like Frazier?Originally posted by explosivo420sdAll these people just hate Toney and would never give him credit no matter what he does.Comment
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Frazeir had more power than Toney. Its funny they said that because Toney played Frazier in the movie "Ali" starring Will Smith.Originally posted by WinterYesterdays fight was the first time I had ever seen Toney before. I had never seen him before, only heard of him. I did not watch the fight alone, I watched it with other people. One of the people said Toney reminded them of Frazier. I have heard of Frazier, and I know he was good. Do you think Toney is like Frazier?Comment
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Ok so Booker is a C level fighter, who is beating D and F level fighters. D and F level fighters don't KO C level fighters. Have you ever seen a D/F level fighter fight? No one is saying that Booker has a bad chin. He just clearly is no where near a fighter like Brewster in the chin department. Wlad would have KO'd Booker in at most 2. I'd put a lot of money on a KO in 1. Toney would be a perfect matchup for Wlad. It would be Byrd all over a again. A little opponent with a decent chin, who has good boxing skills, and little punching power.Originally posted by explosivo420sdWhat does this have to do with if they should have KOed him or not? How do you know how hard these guys punch. For what you think of Booker, he should be one of those guys, so that contridicts your whole argument. You think of him as a C/D fighter like the people he has beaten. Face it, Booker has a good chin and isn;t an easy guy to KO.
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You need to get over your little letter grading system guy lol.Originally posted by NeuraxisOk so Booker is a C level fighter, who is beating D and F level fighters. D and F level fighters don't KO C level fighters. Have you ever seen a D/F level fighter fight? No one is saying that Booker has a bad chin. He just clearly is no where near a fighter like Brewster in the chin department. Wlad would have KO'd Booker in at most 2. I'd put a lot of money on a KO in 1. Toney would be a perfect matchup for Wlad. It would be Byrd all over a again. A little opponent with a decent chin, who has good boxing skills, and little punching power.
All that stuff your saying doesnt mean ****.
Sometimes good fighters get KOed by lesser fighters. Ask Roy Jones. If Booker is so bad, he would have been KOed or at least lost in one of his 22 fights. I doubt Booker would get KOed by Wlad in 2. I find that to be a hopful statement from a Wlad fan. I would actually bet that Booker would beat Wlad if they ever were to fight. Booker has a better chin than Wlad and Wlad has been KOed by punches less powerful that Bookers. Toney would destroy Wlad, hands down. And if you dont know that, I am convinced you are on crack or dont know **** about boxing. I already think your crazy.
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Roy Jones lost to Tarver who is a good fighter with a strong punch. How can you be comparing Tarver to the people that Booker has faced? TheGreat1 is not going to like this at all. Why are we talking about Wlad in a thread about Toney? Wlad has lost once due to a boxers punching power to Sanders. Sanders is one of the hardest hitting southpaws ever. If you had seen Purrity v. Wlad and Brewster v. Wlad you would realize that his stamina was the issue. Either way he didn't go down from a punch in either of those two fights. Toney has a better chance of beating Vitali than Wlad. Apparently you missed Vitali and Wlad v. Byrd. Wow Wlad has been KO'd by punches less powerful than Bookers? Are you trying to lose all credibility here? Worst post ever.Originally posted by explosivo420sdYou need to get over your little letter grading system guy lol.
All that stuff your saying doesnt mean ****.
Sometimes good fighters get KOed by lesser fighters. Ask Roy Jones. If Booker is so bad, he would have been KOed or at least lost in one of his 22 fights. I doubt Booker would get KOed by Wlad in 2. I find that to be a hopful statement from a Wlad fan. I would actually bet that Booker would beat Wlad if they ever were to fight. Booker has a better chin than Wlad and Wlad has been KOed by punches less powerful that Bookers. Toney would destroy Wlad, hands down. And if you dont know that, I am convinced you are on crack or dont know **** about boxing. I already think your crazy.
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You dont understand **** and Im getting tired of explaining things to you. Im comparing the difference of skill between Booker and his opponents and the skill of Tarver vs Jones, respectively. Im not comaparing the skill of Booker to the skill of Tarver or Jones. Im saying the skill level difference between 2 fighters is somewhat comparable. The point was sometimes guys get KOed by lesser men. Thats it. Its a fact.Originally posted by NeuraxisRoy Jones lost to Tarver who is a good fighter with a strong punch. How can you be comparing Tarver to the people that Booker has faced? TheGreat1 is not going to like this at all. Why are we talking about Wlad in a thread about Toney? Wlad has lost once due to a boxers punching power to Sanders. Sanders is one of the hardest hitting southpaws ever. If you had seen Purrity v. Wlad and Brewster v. Wlad you would realize that his stamina was the issue. Either way he didn't go down from a punch in either of those two fights. Toney has a better chance of beating Vitali than Wlad. Apparently you missed Vitali and Wlad v. Byrd. Wow Wlad has been KO'd by punches less powerful than Bookers? Are you trying to lose all credibility here? Worst post ever.
Wlad back peddled from a ****ing jab from Brewster so dont give me this stamina ****. Wlad is a ***** and thats all there is to the Wlad argument. You are sounding like a Wlad loving dumbass now. James Toney would destroy Wlad and end his career if its not already over. If you think Wlad could beat Toney you are a straight up Wlad nuthugger as they like to say on this site.
Remember, this discussion started because you thought that Toney was weak beacause he didnt KO Booker. I countered your argument by saying that no one has KOed Booker so why how can you hate on Toney for not doing it either? You dont know how easy a guy he is to KO because no one has ever done it. You then said Toney didnt do enough against a low ranked fighter. Then I asked you what more could he have done? I guess total domination for 12 rds isnt good enough for you. You are the one making asinine arguments around here man. I'm just trying to verbally slap some sense into you.
WORST POST EVER. **** you dumbass.
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