This is why Toney is the Best HW out there

[grayfist]

Rydell Booker World Rank 74

How then could have he met Toney? Oh, I get it! Boxing today is a crazy network of roads where, often, those who shouldn't meet atop the ring, do; and those who should, don't! Thanks for the info!

[TheGreat1]

yo ya
tarver is good and he's under rated
from what i hear he should've won tha first match
and he knocked rjj tha 2nd round of tha 2nd fight n that just pissed ppl off

and eric harding gave roy jones a harder time then he did to tarver

yes tarver should have won the 1st fight. but he was robbed so the next fight he said he wasn't going to let it go to the scorecards. which he didn't. like i said people just like to hate. but they know no one right now can beat toney or tarver. I want to see Hopkins come up and get his ass handed to him by tarver next. And VK would get a lesson from toney.

[S0UTHPAW]

Not impressed at all. Booker never had and never will have the skills or power to hang with Toney. That being said, Toney got hit flush more often than I liked to see. One flush shot from Vitali, Golata, Brewster, Wlad, Tyson, ect would put Toney down.

Toney looked in great shape, yet he could not close the show and get the knock out. It appears his power did not follow him up in the weight class. Before this fight I felt Toney would be a match against all the champs besides Vitali. Now I think the only champ he can take is Brewster (do I really have to call Brewster a champ... its just the WBO). Vitali will knock Toney out, and Ruiz/Byrd will out point him.

Toney is a great fighter no doubt, but he did not bring his defence or power up with him enough to offset the size advantage of the big guys, nor the speed to out slick the fast guys. But I still love to watch him fight.

[Marjoh]

Its because the number one WBC contender should have blown out a C level fighter. If Toney was a C fighter himself everyone would be saying wow great fight Toney, but he's not.

Toney showed great performance. So what the hell do you mean? Toney made him look foolish in every single round, the kid was throwing like one or two punches.

[Nautilus]

yes tarver should have won the 1st fight. but he was robbed so the next fight he said he wasn't going to let it go to the scorecards. which he didn't. like i said people just like to hate. but they know no one right now can beat toney or tarver. I want to see Hopkins come up and get his ass handed to him by tarver next. And VK would get a lesson from toney.

I don't think people hate Toney. Today's fight was a warm up for him, and we all will tune in on his next real battles. Toney is a great fighter.

[Marjoh]

Not impressed at all. Booker never had and never will have the skills or power to hang with Toney. That being said, Toney got hit flush more often than I liked to see. One flush shot from Vitali, Golata, Brewster, Wlad, Tyson, ect would put Toney down.

Toney looked in great shape, yet he could not close the show and get the knock out. It appears his power did not follow him up in the weight class. Before this fight I felt Toney would be a match against all the champs besides Vitali. Now I think the only champ he can take is Brewster (do I really have to call Brewster a champ... its just the WBO). Vitali will knock Toney out, and Ruiz/Byrd will out point him.

Toney is a great fighter no doubt, but he did not bring his defence or power up with him enough to offset the size advantage of the big guys, nor the speed to out slick the fast guys. But I still love to watch him fight.

I think Toney can out smart Vitali. And no one would dare say that Vitali is a smart fighter. This is Toney's first fight in awhile, but he still came in in great shape with preformance. Sure the odd is against Toney on a V.Klitchko-Toney bout, but I would rather see that than the up coming V.Klitchsko-Williams, PPV or not.

[grayfist]

yes tarver should have won the 1st fight. but he was robbed so the next fight he said he wasn't going to let it go to the scorecards. which he didn't. like i said people just like to hate. but they know no one right now can beat toney or tarver. I want to see Hopkins come up and get his ass handed to him by tarver next. And VK would get a lesson from toney.

I think Tarver lost their first meeting more than Roy won it. As I remember it, Tarver had Roy's number in the early going as he stayed in the face of Jones, followed Jones to the ropes and lambasted him with mean shots, and slipped Roy's counters. Then, for no apparent reason, he decided to fence with Jones in the middle rounds, only becoming active again in the 10th where he seemed to hurt Jones. Then, again, he, slacked off in the 11th and 12th! One judge, I can't remember who, called it even. Another, saw Jones way ahead. The third had a two or three point difference.I saw it as something that could have gone either way. But Tarver, I think, could have won convincingly had he kept the pressure up in most of the middle rounds and the last two.

[S0UTHPAW]

And no one would dare say that Vitali is a smart fighter.

I will. Honestly I can't see how you think otherwise. He breaks down his opponents while get hit as little as possible. Tactics wise you can only say he screwed up twice at best, and even that is stretching it. I am in no way saying Vitali's ring smarts is greater than Toney, but I would not give Toney the edge by much. Not enough difference to offset the physical differences for sure.

I would love to see this fight too. But I have grown to like Toney. I would rather see him stay around for a while and pick off Brewster or try Bryd/Ruiz. He has a much better chance in those fights, and they still will be exiting. Why go in with the guy who has the best chance to beat you first?

[TheGreat1]

you don't have to win by ko every fight to be good. hell look at bryd when was the last time he KO'd someone? Toney has great power and well be able to KO some of the HW's. he has great combo's and a iron chin. he will not be a easy win for anyone. Toney knows when he needs his defense, he will bring it when that time arrives. He wouldn't let VK land to many solid shots.

[Dr Cynical]

i'm glad to see the haters are out tonight. It's not that booker is bad it's that toney is so good he made Booker look so bad. You can't KO every one. but he did take out holyfield how many fighters can say they did that. Toney has skills and will continue to take out the HW div one by one, and one day you all will wake up and say damn THEGREAT1 was right.

No, Booker is really that bad.
Ignore what Kellerman says and actually look at the gay bastard's record.
I say he's gay cause he blew Toney a kiss at the weigh-in and tapped Toney's ass during their clinches.
That and he couldn't stop hugging Toney.

If Toney was as great as you say, he shouldn't have been caught with the slow and sloppy combinations that Booker hit him with.
Also, he should have been able to put him away early or at least after he made Booker take a knee.
But he didn't.

Also, you didn't see the damn fight so why are you ready to give Toney a *******?
This is nothing to be bragging about.
The man looked horrible, that's all there is to it.