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  • tracylee
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    #111
    Originally posted by Neuraxis
    Here are the scorcards. I myself could have gone for 118-110 or 119-109. ~ Judge: Marty Denkin 110-117 | Judge: Frank Garza 107-120 | Judge: Barry Druxman 108-118 ~
    I had it 119-108 only because I didnt give any 10-8 rounds. and I thought Booker did just enough to win the first round
    Last edited by tracylee; 09-24-2004, 11:46 AM.

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    • Neuraxis
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      #112
      Originally posted by Marjoh
      Toney showed great performance. So what the hell do you mean? Toney made him look foolish in every single round, the kid was throwing like one or two punches.
      Maybe you're right. I was too kind to Booker. He's probably closer to a D level fighter than C. I mean Kali Meehan is C and I'd put big money of Meehan to beat Booker. You simply can't claim some huge victory by easily beating a D level opponent when you are supposed to be an A level fighter. It would be like the Klitschko fans claiming that Wlad isn't ruined goods because he owned Fabio Moli. If a ruined Wlad can KO a C level fighter in less than 1 round, I'd expect something similar from Toney. Why do you think everyone on FSN was predicting Toney by KO? Well it was because anything less would not have looked that good for Toney.

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      • Explosivo
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        #113
        Originally posted by TheGreat1
        he has to be worried, if toney's skill would be too much for him to handle. i noticed that people keep talking about toney not being able to take out booker. remember that VK couldn't finish LL, Sander,or Bryd and LL didn't even have a mark on his face, does that mean he has no power???
        You and I are on the same page. This notion that because a person doesnt bruise their opponent, they have no power is lame. Thats a good point about VK and Lennox. Lennox had no bruises and is known to have a glass jaw and VK couldnt finish him. I guess VK has no power. What cracks me up is this bull**** that Toney has no power because he didnt KO Booker. First of all, he TKOed his ass a couple times in the fight. Second of all, NO ONE has KOed Booker! How can you say Toney has no power because he didnt do it when no one has been able to do it. Dumb ass argument.

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          #114
          Originally posted by explosivo420sd
          You and I are on the same page. This notion that because a person doesnt bruise their opponent, they have no power is lame. Thats a good point about VK and Lennox. Lennox had no bruises and is known to have a glass jaw and VK couldnt finish him. I guess VK has no power. What cracks me up is this bull**** that Toney has no power because he didnt KO Booker. First of all, he TKOed his ass a couple times in the fight. Second of all, NO ONE has KOed Booker! How can you say Toney has no power because he didnt do it when no one has been able to do it. Dumb ass argument.
          I'm not saying he has no power at all; Booker has tremendous heart too, which does complicate thing's. I just thought he had the poor guy hurt badly so many times, and after watching round after round of it, I just kinda expect the KO to come in somewhere, you know? Just to keep with the natural flow of thing's I suppose

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          • Winter
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            #115
            I am sure Toney does have power. It will be an interesting fight if Vitali and Toney fight each other next year. It could be very interesting.

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              #116
              Originally posted by tracylee
              I'm not saying he has no power at all; Booker has tremendous heart too, which does complicate thing's. I just thought he had the poor guy hurt badly so many times, and after watching round after round of it, I just kinda expect the KO to come in somewhere, you know? Just to keep with the natural flow of thing's I suppose
              I wasnt really even directing that towards you.

              Agree with what you say above 100% I was expectiong a KO too since Booker was taking such a beating. But, the guy doesnt know how to loose yet, so it was hard for him to go down. Didnt it look like the Ref could have stopped the fight a couple times? If he would have like IMO he should have, James would have won by TKO.

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                #117
                Originally posted by explosivo420sd
                I wasnt really even directing that towards you.

                Agree with what you say above 100% I was expectiong a KO too since Booker was taking such a beating. But, the guy doesnt know how to loose yet, so it was hard for him to go down. Didnt it look like the Ref could have stopped the fight a couple times? If he would have like IMO he should have, James would have won by TKO.
                There were several times when the ref. could have jumped in and stopped it without getting "booed" to much, but the corner is the one I am holding responsible if only cause he's so young with his entire career ahead of him ,and he kept looking over at them with that "save me" look in his eye's...but naturally when they asked him in between round's if he wanted to continue he said yes; like any man would. It was a no win situation when the ref. and the corner have no problem watching a young fighter take a beating.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by tracylee
                  There were several times when the ref. could have jumped in and stopped it without getting "booed" to much, but the corner is the one I am holding responsible if only cause he's so young with his entire career ahead of him ,and he kept looking over at them with that "save me" look in his eye's...but naturally when they asked him in between round's if he wanted to continue he said yes; like any man would. It was a no win situation when the ref. and the corner have no problem watching a young fighter take a beating.
                  I agree the fight should have been stopped. The corner should have thrown in the towel. They were just standing there watching thier fighter get beaten to a pulp. It was really sad. My girlfriend who doesnt like boxing was watching it with me and she started crying because Booker was getting beaten so bad. That fight didnt help me make her a fan, thats for sure.

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                    #119
                    This was the payoff for the entire "Fight Week" on Fox Sports Net. Hasim Rahman fought 3 tune-up fights after his losing streak that only one or two made it onto Ballroom Boxing on repeats.

                    Rid**** Bowe's fight Saturday is not televised.

                    James Toney hyped this all week like it was a real event and in the end it wasn't. He deserves a little razzing for not putting on a good show. After the first round, it was like "Toney's gonna win" Then after 3 or 4 it was "He can get him out of him at any time" Then after 5 or 6 it was "God, this opponent is terrible" Then 7-12 it was "Maybe I can find something interesting to do, like clean the dirt out from underneath my fingernails or go pluck some nosehairs."

                    Then comes all the fanfare with the bogus belts and him getting rowdy with Chris Byrd and then acting like a thug amongst the fans in the ballroom.

                    James Toney wishes he was Mike Tyson. All the hype. All the "he's crazy". Even all the "He's a trainwreck."

                    But Mr. Toney, I used to watch Tyson. Tyson was a crazy man. Tyson was a ferocious fighter. Tyson was a true badass. And you, Mr. Toney. You are no Tyson. You are a fat middleweight who should have already retired. If the early to mid 1990s crop of heavyweights - Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis, Moorer, Tua - were the current bunch, you would NOT be a heavyweight. You would be retired, because you couldn't make weight against anyone with a name that you could actually beat.

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                    • Explosivo
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                      #120
                      WTF is up with all the Toney bashing? What did he do last night that was so wrong? All he did was go out and win his comeback fight and a buch of people are calling him names and acting like hes a bad fighter. ****, get a life people.

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