Bob Arum Issues Statement on Antonio Margarito Ban

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  • MindBat
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    This is one of the times when you can really see the lawyer in Bob Arum. I do see his point though, I would be upset if a guy I was representing was convicted without decent evidence (of him knowingly cheating with the wraps), you can assume he knew about the wraps, but in a legal proceeding to me assumption is no where near good enough to take away another mans livelihood.

    Although Arum is always out for himself, as long as you are on the same side as him (and are still of use to him) he will look out for you pretty well.
    I sense that myself, and I don't doubt he coached Margo and Capetillo on what to say which is probably what took them so long to respond to the accusations.

    And maybe Arum is right. You must prosecute on the evidence and prove one’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. So assuming and speculating that Margarito in fact knew what was going on, is not sufficient burden of proof. They had to prove he actually used loaded wraps in the past and was found guilty of it, to stick him with a harsher punishment.

    Ok, assuming Margo knew absolutely nothing about his hands being wrapped in that fashion, we can definitely assume Capetillo was not really looking out for the best interest of his charge after all, and was only out for himself at least that night.

    Capetillo claiming it was an "innocent mistake" and an "accident"
    probably prevents Margo from suing him.

    Kicking Capetillo to the curb is the least Margo can do, and suing him in court for endangering his career is the most he could do to, perhaps, save face.

    The question is what was there for Capetillo to gain for “accidentally” doing that? A longer career as a trainer?

    We can only speculate.

    If Margo decides to appeal the charge in a higher court, his punishment may be reduced if not altogether thrown out.

    He would then need a good lawyer.
    Last edited by MindBat; 02-12-2009, 10:47 PM.

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    • freedom213
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      This is one of the times when you can really see the lawyer in Bob Arum. I do see his point though, I would be upset if a guy I was representing was convicted without decent evidence (of him knowingly cheating with the wraps), you can assume he knew about the wraps, but in a legal preceeding to me assumption is no where near good enough to take away another mans livelyhood.

      Although Arum is always out for himself, aslong as you are on the same side as him (and are still of use to him) he will look out for you pretty well.
      while it is true that Arum represents Margarito he should know better when it comes to the fact that Margarito is ultimately responsible for his team and their actions. Thats how it works in the grown up world Bob! He better shut his mouth before he pisses Team Cotto and Clottey off with backing Margarito's cheating ass and loses two guys who can and will fight in 2009.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Sensational!
        I wonder if corporate sponsors would affix there company names to Margarito or any of his events ever again.
        Truly the only reason Arum is upset and backing Tony is to protect the investment he has made over the years and that he thought would finally pay off. Even if Margarito knew nothing he will still have to pay the piper, its like cheating on your taxes. Your accountant does the numbers you reap the benefit but guess what Uncle Sam will come knocking on your door not the accountant at the end of the day. Again Margarito's team is responsible and ultimately Margarito is personally responsible. Doesnt make him Evil just guilty.

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          #44
          Originally posted by freedom213
          Truly the only reason Arum is upset and backing Tony is to protect the investment he has made over the years and that he thought would finally pay off. Even if Margarito knew nothing he will still have to pay the piper, its like cheating on your taxes. Your accountant does the numbers you reap the benefit but guess what Uncle Sam will come knocking on your door not the accountant at the end of the day. Again Margarito's team is responsible and ultimately Margarito is personally responsible. Doesnt make him Evil just guilty.
          I might have more respect for Arum if he had made such an investment in Margarito over the years... but he honestly didn't give a damn. Cotto was his golden boy, and rightly so. It wasn't until Margarito made Cotto look more like bronze than gold... thats when Arum decided to campaign for Margarito.

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            #45
            Originally posted by nathan_nall
            I might have more respect for Arum if he had made such an investment in Margarito over the years... but he honestly didn't give a damn. Cotto was his golden boy, and rightly so. It wasn't until Margarito made Cotto look more like bronze than gold... thats when Arum decided to campaign for Margarito.
            money money you know it, and truly a ****** move by Bob. He should at least wait and see the results from the foreign substance AKA plaster.

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              #46
              Jose Suliman is right on. Funny how they hold Margarito responsable for what his team (trainer) did but Mayweather wasn't punched for what his team (uncle) did.

              Punish el mexicano because they can not because its right, but because they can. PUtos.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ferocity
                Jose Suliman is right on. Funny how they hold Margarito responsable for what his team (trainer) did but Mayweather wasn't punched for what his team (uncle) did.

                Punish el mexicano because they can not because its right, but because they can. PUtos.
                Because Margarito knew what was going into his gloves. Mayweather didn't know what his uncle was going to do.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                  Because Margarito knew what was going into his gloves. Mayweather didn't know what his uncle was going to do.
                  sure buddy, he didnt see his uncle come up the stairs then into the ring

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    sure buddy, he didnt see his uncle come up the stairs then into the ring
                    He saw but he was hurt by the low blows at the time. What did you want him to do. It was too late anyways. Unlike Margarito who willingly put plaster in his gloves knowing that he was cheating.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                      Because Margarito knew what was going into his gloves. Mayweather didn't know what his uncle was going to do.
                      Exactly!!

                      It's f**king common sense. If it ain't tape and gauze that's being wrapped around your hands, my hands or f**king Margarita's hands, then somethin' funny is going on, and plus it's f**king wet, WTF.

                      I've had a cast on before, and I know the g*ddamn difference. I mean, it truly is just common sense, if it was just tape & gauze, there's no reason why it should be wet!

                      Margarita knew this ****, he's not as dumb as he looks.

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