Why In The World Should Floyd Fight Shane "Now"?

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  • The Gambler1981
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    #21
    Originally posted by cortdawg25
    Is he that big? I saw that CA crowd...they were there for Margarito!
    He is pretty big, for a B side. Mosley_Margarito drew a large HBO audience, now I am sure both played a part in this but, Mosley looked great in that fight, so that is a lot of potential buyers (imo). Mosley is not a huge draw by himself but when matched up against a very good opponent he helps to bring in fans because people do actually know who he is.

    If I had to split 20 million between Floyd and Mosley I would give Floyd 12 or 13 up front and Mosley the rest, based on who I thought brought in the most fans really (fans for Floyd being a lose term because it includes the people that want to see any opponent of his rip open his chest and **** in his chest cavity).

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    • MANGLER
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      #22
      One of Floyd's boys don't want him in a fight against the sport's top WW? Wow. Imagine that.

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      • cortdawg25
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        #23
        Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
        Yes.. those are all good points.. But .. and it's a BIG but.. If Mayweather is as confident in his abilities as YOU are.. Then all of those are Good money fights.. all of those are legacy building fights..
        Why not take a few of them.. and shut guys like ME up???

        I never question Floyd's Athletic talents or Ring Skills.. Only his fighter's heart..
        Yeah Welter, I hear u. I want to see him fight atleast 3 of them too. But i'm not going to knock him for not when Mosley and Cotto could have and chose not too. And Cotto and the rest just don't bring the good $$$ that floyd likes these days. Whne he was hungry, why whatn't they trying to get at him then?

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        • andrewcuff
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          #24
          Why do Floyd fans always come up with this "A fights B", "C fights D", then winner of those fights gets it on for the right to step in the ring with Floyd nonsense?! What has PBF done to deserve this treatment? He's ducked the best fighters above 135 and does not warrant the red carpet. FFS, he's not Leonard with 4 ATGs on his resume.

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            #25
            Originally posted by andrewcuff
            Why do Floyd fans always come up with this "A fights B", "C fights D", then winner of those fights gets it on for the right to step in the ring with Floyd nonsense?! What has PBF done to deserve this treatment? He's ducked the best fighters above 135 and does not warrant the red carpet. FFS, he's not Leonard with 4 ATGs on his resume.
            cosign!!! good post, end this bull**** thread already

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            • Pullcounter
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              #26
              Originally posted by DLT
              I predicted that he wouldnt fight Shane "now" and I think its an excellent move but people still rip him for it. It just makes no sense for "Floyd's" legacy to fight Shane now. I say Floyd's legacy because if its someone else then it doesnt matter but they will definatly down play it if Floyd beat Shane now without Shane looking awesome again, e****aly now after we know that Margarito was previously using plastered hands. It makes way more sense for Pac to beat Hatton, Shane to beat a scrub, and Cotto to beat Berto in June. That way you can then have a Floyd-Pac and Shane-Cotto fight right around the same exact time in September or whatever and the winners face eachother. If you dont want Shane to fight a bum 1st then let him fight Clottey. Either way both Shane & Pac definatly need 1 more big win against these top fighters at these weights for Floyd to get full credit and your crazy if you dont beleive that. Also, as I say in the link below, it would ruin his fight with Pac if he were to beat Shane now. The Pac-Floyd fight is super huge if he fights Pac off a 2 year layoff but if Floyd beat Shane now then everyone would pick him to beat Pac and the fight wouldnt be as huge. It makes much more sense to fight Pac 1st, without a doubt.

              http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=240676
              i think pac/pbf makes more money than pbf/mosley so pbf/pac will go down before pbf/mosley.

              imho floyd should fight mosley, but even if floyd beats mosley, he will still have to fight cotto because cotto beat mosley. seriously, after the margarito beat down, people (mostly Puerto Ricans) are already elevating Cotto to the #1 position, based on close win in his backyard against mosley, so even if pbf did beat mosley, he wouldnt get full credit for it.

              the only way I can see mosley/pbf going down is for mosley to fight and beat cotto first. IMHO that's probably how floyd's team should see it.
              Last edited by Pullcounter; 02-12-2009, 03:15 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by y2flyy
                Yes I care to disagree....first of all De La Hoya did not look "Great" against Mayorga. Mayorga just looked bad. secondly comparing Mayorga with Margarito is INSANE. When Shane beat Margarito, Margarito was on TOP of the Weightweight division by beating then undefeated assassin Miguel Cotto. Mind you both Margarito and Cotto were said in the boxing public to have the best chance to beat PBF
                So PBF should fight the dominant of the 3 which is now Sugar Shane Mosley

                Beating SSM would look great for PBF. SSM is a hall of famer is not shot/old.
                He actually has the best chance to beat PBF
                You don't think ODLH looked great against Mayorga? Can you point to a significant punch that Mayorga landed in the entire fight? That was one of the most dominant performances I have ever seen in my entire life.

                No one was comparing the two, I was just saying that both guys were old when they fought, and beat a titleholder in the division, which put them on the map as one of the top guys.

                I guarantee you though, that as soon as PBF beat Mosley (if he did, just for argument's sake, we'll assume he does), Mosley would become a lot older in the eyes of many people. The same way Baldomir became a lot worse, De La Hoya a lot older and Hatton a lot smaller. People like to make excuses after a loss/victory...

                I'm not one of those idiots that think that people just make up excuses for Floyd's opponents either... it happens to every fighter, but... I just have a really strong feeling that Mayweather gets a lot less credit for beating Shane Mosley than you think.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by andrewcuff
                  Why do Floyd fans always come up with this "A fights B", "C fights D", then winner of those fights gets it on for the right to step in the ring with Floyd nonsense?! What has PBF done to deserve this treatment? He's ducked the best fighters above 135 and does not warrant the red carpet. FFS, he's not Leonard with 4 ATGs on his resume.
                  1) floyd in theory is still p4p#1 since he never lost it in the ring

                  2) floyd is a huge payday

                  basically floyd is the new dlh...

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                  • andrewcuff
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    1) floyd in theory is still p4p#1 since he never lost it in the ring

                    2) floyd is a huge payday

                    basically floyd is the new dlh...
                    1) Floyd isn't P4P #1 because he retired (in his prime too). Pacquiao is.

                    2) Floyd is NOT a huge payday. His biggest paydays have come from DLH and Hatton, both of whom are big draws.

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                    • Fox McCloud
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      1) floyd in theory is still p4p#1 since he never lost it in the ring

                      2) floyd is a huge payday

                      basically floyd is the new dlh...
                      Originally posted by andrewcuff
                      1) Floyd isn't P4P #1 because he retired (in his prime too). Pacquiao is.

                      2) Floyd is NOT a huge payday. His biggest paydays have come from DLH and Hatton, both of whom are big draws.
                      Floyd is not P4P #1, because he has not fought in over a year, meaning he is inactive by pretty much everyone's standards. If you argument is that he never lost it in the ring, then Floyd is still not P4P #1, because Rocky Marciano is... not a defensible argument.

                      Floyd obviously is a huge payday, otherwise everyone would not be calling him out... he is tricky and almost an assured loss to anyone who fights him, so there has to be a big reward to fight him... and that is why everyone is calling him out.

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