I think prime for prime Calzaghe could give Jones a difficult fight either way. Calzaghe's speed and work rate create trouble for anyone, but I think Calz defense liabilities could get him heavily countered. Roy just wasn't the same guy against Calzaghe, seriously he got knocked out twice and humiliated.
Yeah, i could see maybe a close SD either way but id defo lean to Calzaghe...After Tarver Roy said that tall southpaws who can jab would always give him problems and to add Calzaghes early power and his speed and workrate he'd have been a very bad style match for Roy IMO.
Just a note though, what you are pretty much doing is just cherry-picking comments ppl make on this site and using them to try and take away from what Jones has achieved.
Anyone could do this with pretty much any fighter. It is pointless.
He beat Toney and Hopkins, just with those 2 fights his resume 10 times better than Calzaghe's
A green Hopkins and a weight drained Toney.
Using your logic i could easily say Calz wins over Hop and Roy were better.
Originally posted by danc1984
If you are talking achievements then clearly Joe is the best 168 pounder ever.
In a prime for prime matchup at the weight I will take Jones by decision.
Exactly my point....Roy acheived nothing at 168 to be compared to Calz at 168.
Originally posted by danc1984
Just a note though, what you are pretty much doing is just cherry-picking comments ppl make on this site and using them to try and take away from what Jones has achieved.
Anyone could do this with pretty much any fighter. It is pointless.
I am not....These things are being stated and debated....Ive not posted much since i registerd but i have been reading a lot. Cant beleive some of the **** i read on here. It's fun though.
Exactly my point....Roy acheived nothing at 168 to be compared to Calz at 168.
I am not....These things are being stated and debated....Ive not posted much since i registerd but i have been reading a lot. Cant beleive some of the **** i read on here. It's fun though.
In my opinion, stating that Roy Jones is the best SMW ever is a joke of a comment. I think most Roy Jones fans would agree with that. Roy's achievements at 168 don't stack up to Calzaghe's.
These things are being "stated and debated" mostly by ppl who just post purely because they are motivated by hate. By starting these threads you are encouraging them in and basically lumping yourself in with them.
In my opinion, stating that Roy Jones is the best SMW ever is a joke of a comment. I think most Roy Jones fans would agree with that. Roy's achievements at 168 don't stack up to Calzaghe's.
These things are being "stated and debated" mostly by ppl who just post purely because they are motivated by hate. By starting these threads you are encouraging them in and basically lumping yourself in with them.
Yet some "respected" posters like the guy i have in my sig are debating **** along these lines with me.
Come on dude, the Calzaghe hate on here is pretty much a disgrace from pretty much everyone. LOL!
Yet some "respected" posters like the guy i have in my sig are debating **** along these lines with me.
Come on dude, the Calzaghe hate on here is pretty much a disgrace from pretty much everyone. LOL!
A lot of fighters get unwarranted hate, including Joe.
I guess I just don't really see the point to starting series of threads designed to encourage it whilst the more worthwhile discussion is pushed further into the background.
I've made the points I wanted to make though, carry on.
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