Who is more overrated Williams or Kessler

[Dynamite Kid]

I base it on the fact that he IS the most established SMW in the world, combined with my opinion based on seeing him, and the other fighters in that division fight. If you don't agree with him being ranked first, who would you rank first in that division, or what's your top 5 fighters on that division, based on your opinion?

I dont know i will make my decision when their is more clarity in the division, because the best fighter just left the division and i believe all is to play for.

Why dont they just give all the belts to Kessler now and let all the others fighters fights a round robin because apparently Kessler doesn't need to prove he is the best 168lbs, because you THINK he already is, because you THINK he would beat all those other fighters .

[sylvestersweet]

I really gotta say Williams. He may be good I don't know, but he hasn't done anything of signficance above the welterweight division. We'll see how good he is when he fights Winky in April.

[Kastrioti]

I dont know i will make my decision when their is more clarity in the division, because the best fighter just left the division and i believe all is to play for.

Why dont they just give all the belts to Kessler now and let all the others fighters fights a round robin because apparently Kessler doesn't need to prove he is the best 168lbs, because you THINK he already is, because you THINK he would beat all those other fighters .

Now you're just being childish, you're again saying what I commented on before, saying how unless he's fought every fighter in the division, someone can't be considered the best. You said you rate Wlad the best, because he's established, yet when I say I rate Kessler the best, because he is also, without a doubt the most established SMW in the world, you say It's just my opinion. Of course it's an opinion, it's also an opinion that someone like Gatti would beat Whitaker, you wouldn't be able to PROVE that wrong either, but using common sense, and seeing how both fighters fight, the logical conclusion is that Whitaker would school him. Using the same concept, I conclude that Kessler could beat both Froch and Bute, while you just seem to have no opinion on it.

[KESSLER]

Paul Williams is.

[SonOfCuba]

Kessler,

Williams beat Margarito and nobody wants to fight him, While Kessler avoids fighting anybody.

[Jim Jeffries]

I rate Williams higher, even though the guy he lost to was inferior to the one Kessler lost to (about the same severity of loss in each.) Kessler has tried to get fights with Hopkins and Dawson, Williams has tried to get a rematch with Margarito and others. But I sure as hell don't see anyone talking about Kessler dominating 4 divisions, and Williams hasn't even defended a single title yet. So it has to be Williams.

[Dynamite Kid]

Now you're just being childish, you're again saying what I commented on before, saying how unless he's fought every fighter in the division, someone can't be considered the best. You said you rate Wlad the best, because he's established, yet when I say I rate Kessler the best, because he is also, without a doubt the most established SMW in the world, you say It's just my opinion. Of course it's an opinion, it's also an opinion that someone like Gatti would beat Whitaker, you wouldn't be able to PROVE that wrong either, but using common sense, and seeing how both fighters fight, the logical conclusion is that Whitaker would school him. Using the same concept, I conclude that Kessler could beat both Froch and Bute, while you just seem to have no opinion on it.

Its not commonsense to suggest Kessler is the best 168lb'er like it is too suggest Wlad is the best HW though, thats my point.



If Kessler was the best SMW out there he would be universally recognized as the SMW king pin, but he is not, and for a reason.

Wlad is there on merit.

[FLY TY]

How was Kessler Unified champ when Calzaghe was recognized as the linear champ? Kessler held a couple of belts that all, but who has he beat ?

WTF Williams has a win over a pime Margarito. Kessler has no outstanding win over a top fighter unless you consider an old Marcus Beyer to be a top fighter at that stage.

cosign.....kessler has beaten NOBODY. he's clearly more overrated.

[theghost#1]

neither, But Williams seems to be wanting the big fight while kessler keeps fight the mads larsons of the world. I want Kessler- taylor or Kessler-Froch.

[Kastrioti]

Its not commonsense to suggest Kessler is the best 168lb'er like it is too suggest Wlad is the best HW though, thats my point.



If Kessler was the best SMW out there he would be universally recognized as the SMW king pin, but he is not, and for a reason.

Wlad is there on merit.

Look at the ring ratings. He's #1, he also beat both Andrade and Mundine in dominating fashion, who are 3rd and 4th on the list, respectively.