Joe Calzaghe >>> Hopkins and Roy Jones

[Dynamite Kid]

Ring Magazine Champ = Undisputed Champ

Didn't Haye have the Ring Magazine belt?

Well why do you keep saying he was not the CW champ when he had the Ring Magazine belt at CW ?

By your equation Haye Ring Magazine Champ = Undisputed CW champ

[MANGLER]

Old or not, Joe C beat Bhop and RJ last yr. But overall career wise RJ and Bhop will be ranked higher than him.

[Mr. Philadel]

some dudes here only like Calzaghe because he's caucasion..... then they turn around as use these reverse racism tactics ......when will you dudes get it?!?......if a non-caucasion doesn't like Joe Calzaghe it doesn't mean he or she is a racist!! The same non-caucasion boxing fans who dislike Calzaghe admire Kelly Pavlik.....I'm one! I dont really dislike Joe, in fact I think he's a special brand but I also feel as though his record is very misleading.....thats it! Racism is a corny excuse when it comes to giving Joe credit.....you can't make people love your man by beatin' them in the head with bull**** like this.......to be honest I bet there's some non-caucasion dudes here who rate Joe higher than they will admit on the board .....study what's said and not the person who says it!

[S A M U R A I]

Do you really have to leave you homeland to be considered "The Greatest"? If so, how often have Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins left theirs?

Good point. Jones has never left the US to fight. Bernard has only once, I believe?

Not taking away from those fighters, they are great, IMO. But it's true. Nobody can knock Calzaghe for staying most of the time in the UK and then praise Jones and Hops for doing the same thing. Stinks of bias, nationalism, and special rules for your favorite fighters.



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[Kris Silver]

Good point. Jones has never left the US to fight. Bernard has only once, I believe?

Not taking away from those fighters, they are great, IMO. But it's true. Nobody can knock Calzaghe for staying most of the time in the UK and then praise Jones and Hops for doing the same thing. Stinks of bias, nationalism, and special rules for your favorite fighters.

I think Hopkins has fought in Ecuador and France. But yeah Roy was pretty bad for travelling and it is a double standard, I don't care what anyone says.

Not to mention the fact, Joe's beaten more Americans than any other nationality.

[S A M U R A I]

I think Hopkins has fought in Ecuador and France.

You're right. Thanks, Kris, I forgot about France.



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[AKATheMack]

Good point. Jones has never left the US to fight. Bernard has only once, I believe?

Not taking away from those fighters, they are great, IMO. But it's true. Nobody can knock Calzaghe for staying most of the time in the UK and then praise Jones and Hops for doing the same thing. Stinks of bias, nationalism, and special rules for your favorite fighters.

Except most fighters feel they need to come to America to be great. With that feeling in the boxing community there is no need for Americans to leave because there are already great fighters from other countries here.

[Derranged]

Prime Roy Jones Jr >>>>> the air we breathe

[Derranged]

I mean really WladOwns, havent you caught enough abuse this past year?

Keep in mind, I am a Calzaghe fan and I dont think he is a bum at, he's a damn good fighter who could've been great if he had a real trainer... But gimmie a break.

[-EX-]

Joe's career better than Roy or Bernard's?? Hahahahaha good one.

Joe better than Roy and Bernard right now: Skooled Roy, edged Bernard. I can respect that