Nigel Benn: "Calzaghe Beats Me, Hagler, Hearns, Sugar"

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  • smirf123
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    #131
    lacy was not a top fighter jones and eubank wer past their primes hopkins was still good but not at his peak (would have beaten calzaghe in his day) kessler is the only top quality fighter calzaghe has fought. All of those fighters would have beaten calzaghe except maybe benn because of the weight difference, leonard was smaller but would be to quick and clever for JOE. Calzaghe was the best of a bad division. When benn fought the super middleweight division was a tough divison.

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    • BetterCallSaul
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      #132
      Fact is, prime for prime, Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Calzaghe vs Jones, and, Calzaghe vs Toney would have all been close fights, and gone the distance.

      Calzaghe is miles better than he is given credit for. He is unbeaten, no matter what opposition he has faced. Jones lost to fighters like Johnson, and Tarver. Hopkins lost to fighters like Taylor. None of those defeats were against great opponents.

      He may not have fought the best, but at least he didn't lose to the average. But saying that Kessler, and Hopkins were the best around his weight.

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      • big paulie
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        #133
        The Leonard/Hagler/Hearns/Duran era was truly a special time in boxing, four atg's facing eachother at (or just past) thier primes, each of their fights, barring maybe Hagler v Duran have gone down in history. To say that Calzaghe beats them is offensive, delusional and just plain and simply ****ing wrong

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        • Madvillain
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          #134
          That was great. I needed a good laugh.

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          • SHB
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            #135
            Originally posted by big paulie
            The Leonard/Hagler/Hearns/Duran era was truly a special time in boxing, four atg's facing eachother at (or just past) thier primes, each of their fights, barring maybe Hagler v Duran have gone down in history. To say that Calzaghe beats them is offensive, delusional and just plain and simply ****ing wrong
            Offensive is dismissing any argument because you don't agree with it.

            We're talking Lightweights, Welterweights and Middleweights here. Great ones but smaller guys - much, much smaller in Duran and Leonard's case.

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              #136
              Originally posted by big paulie
              The Leonard/Hagler/Hearns/Duran era was truly a special time in boxing, four atg's facing eachother at (or just past) thier primes, each of their fights, barring maybe Hagler v Duran have gone down in history. To say that Calzaghe beats them is offensive, delusional and just plain and simply ****ing wrong
              What's offensive is the fact that the amazing amount of people who don't understand the idea of weight classes.

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                #137
                Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                What's offensive is the fact that the amazing amount of people who don't understand the idea of weight classes.
                I think those people are referring to P4P match ups.......

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                • znarfv_y2k8
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                  #138
                  Co-sign...

                  Originally posted by smirf123
                  lacy was not a top fighter jones and eubank wer past their primes hopkins was still good but not at his peak (would have beaten calzaghe in his day) kessler is the only top quality fighter calzaghe has fought. All of those fighters would have beaten calzaghe except maybe benn because of the weight difference, leonard was smaller but would be to quick and clever for JOE. Calzaghe was the best of a bad division. When benn fought the super middleweight division was a tough divison.
                  Yes, very good analysis...i agree w/ you...

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                    #139
                    I think Calzaghe stands a very good chance against all the great middleweights, super middleweights, and Light HW, in any era. It would be incredibly naive to think otherwise giving the fact that Joe has never lost.

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                    • znarfv_y2k8
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                      #140
                      Maybe not...

                      Originally posted by SHB
                      Offensive is dismissing any argument because you don't agree with it.

                      We're talking Lightweights, Welterweights and Middleweights here. Great ones but smaller guys - much, much smaller in Duran and Leonard's case.
                      ...But if that's the case Nigel Benn has wrong quoted when he say the best middleweights or doesn't know what his saying....but actually, it's nonsense if he doesn't know cause actually he meant it since all of them have been fighting in the middleweight in the later part...Leonard/Duran 3 is in the WBC SMW Championship, Leonard/Hearns 2 WBC & WBO SMW Championship, Leonard/Hagler WBC MW Championship, Hagler/Hearns WBC/WBA/IBF MW Championship, Hearns/Duran WBC LMW Championship, Hagler/Duran WBC/WBA/IBF MW Championship...yes he's in his mind, they engage in a round robin championship battle in the middleweight...

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