Barrera and Morales are better than Marquez

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  • xcaret
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    #11
    something that people dont know and dont mention is that marquez changed his style after the Chris John fight to please the crowd...i've seen 90% of his fights so i know what im talking about, his whole life he was on the shadows of morales and barrera because nobody wanted to deal with him or even fight him... arum didnt give a *** about him..marquez skillwise will always be better then barrera and morales, as for accomplishments that obviously goes for Morales and then Barrera.. they were the stars and fought anyone, Marquez simply COULDNT...

    Marquez #1.

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    • savorduhflavor
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      #12
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
      that's just a terrible post

      maybe you could give him the 2nd fight, but the first? give me a break
      It was clear as day to me. I gave Pac the 1st, 2nd, and 10th rounds. That's it, Marquez pretty much outclassed him.

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      • Alibata
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        #13
        Marquez is the best of Morales and Barrera...Marquez not only had better skills than both but has the rare ability to step up his game... Regardless of what Morales or Barrera has shown in the ring, I think Marquez is the gamest fighter of the bunch... Marquez don't accept defeat and thats what I admire about him... He aint the #2 lb for lb fighter in the world for nothing.... Can't wait for him to whoop on Diaz...

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          #14
          Originally posted by xcaret
          something that people dont know and dont mention is that marquez changed his style after the Chris John fight to please the crowd...i've seen 90% of his fights so i know what im talking about, his whole life he was on the shadows of morales and barrera because nobody wanted to deal with him or even fight him... arum didnt give a *** about him..marquez skillwise will always be better then barrera and morales, as for accomplishments that obviously goes for Morales and then Barrera.. they were the stars and fought anyone, Marquez simply COULDNT...

          Marquez #1.
          Prime Barrera and Morales would KTFO JMM.

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            #15
            i think MAB should have gotten a rematch

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              #16
              Originally posted by Makavelli
              i think MAB should have gotten a rematch
              He's working his way up to it.

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              • Zocalo
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                #17
                Originally posted by blackirish137
                Barrera and Morales won their first world championships around age 21. Marquez won his in his midlate 20s. in other words, Barrera and Morales had been fighting world calibur fighters for 5-7 years before Marquez started fighting them.

                hell, the first Morales-Barrera fight happened not too long after Marquez's first title shot. is it any surprise that they got worn out quicker than him?

                on a side note, how crazy is it that they won their first titles at 21, even if they were only alphabet belts. most prospects are in their mid twenties.
                Exactly...

                You also have to consider that people like Prince Hameed ducked him for years when he was his mandatory as well. In any case I think all three would beat Hameed.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Zocalo
                  Exactly...

                  You also have to consider that people like Prince Hameed ducked him for years when he was his mandatory as well. In any case I think all three would beat Hameed.
                  Naseem would have KTFO JMM!

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                  • LilGizmo562
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by xcaret
                    something that people dont know and dont mention is that marquez changed his style after the Chris John fight to please the crowd...i've seen 90% of his fights so i know what im talking about, his whole life he was on the shadows of morales and barrera because nobody wanted to deal with him or even fight him... arum didnt give a *** about him..marquez skillwise will always be better then barrera and morales, as for accomplishments that obviously goes for Morales and then Barrera.. they were the stars and fought anyone, Marquez simply COULDNT...

                    Marquez #1.
                    I agree with you, people aren't mentioning the fact that no one wanted to fight Marquez, because of the HIGH risk low reward, hell Emmanuel Stewart told Hamed not to fight Marquez and fight Barrera (he said it in the Countdown to Marquez vs Barrera) instead cause he thought it would've been an easier fight, I think Marquez has the best skill set of the 3, prime vs prime, I think he will whoop Barrera's ass, but not so sure about Morales, because he was a BEAST, I would've loved to see them fight in their prime, but bad management on Marquez side cost him a lot of fights.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MABisGOD
                      He's working his way up to it.



                      no bull**** rich, i think that was a close enough bout that an immediate return bout was warranted....JMM moves up to 130, gets a title shot right away...its too late now but i think MAB should have fought JMM before fighting PAC again....that's HOW you treat your first major superstar...give him a shot to get his title back...instead, they throw him in there against PAC and give him away to King...wacked

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