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  • #41
    Originally posted by elmalo28 View Post
    yeah donaire by ko, and i agree mijares was a good win. but i dont think he's top ten. he has very good power but he's easy to hit, donaire showed that
    Look men after the lost to donaire.,he have tighten up his defense. His defense was pretty good against Catubay and GorreZ(fight he got that draw, but he should of win),and was superb against Kirillov and Mijares. Actually he was outboxing Mijares. he is top 10 without a doubt!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
      1. Hopkins

      2. Pacman

      3. JMM

      4. Mosley

      5. Izzy

      6. Vic

      7. Williams

      8. Ivan

      9. R Marquez

      10. Hatton
      Ridiculous list.lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Steelhammer2K9 View Post
        Why do people put Paul Williams in the top 10 p4p?

        Williams is nothing special, he's way overrated

        A 6'3 man with 82" reach fighting at 147 is just ridiculous. He is a coward that likes to pick on little men. Dude has longer reach than the Klitschko brothers. He should move up and pick on someone his own size.
        Because he has defied weight classes. He beat Margarito, and Quintana at 147. No one else wanted to fight him at that weight. He went up to 154 and beat the crap out of Verno Phillips, and made him quit. Then he went to 160 and KO'ed Andy Kolle in one round, and now he's going to fight Winky Wright at 160, and wants Pavlik. He actively competes in 3 divisions.
        That's why I put him in the top 10.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Massage Queen View Post
          Because he has defied weight classes. He beat Margarito, and Quintana at 147. No one else wanted to fight him at that weight. He went up to 154 and beat the crap out of Verno Phillips, and made him quit. Then he went to 160 and KO'ed Andy Kolle in one round, and now he's going to fight Winky Wright at 160, and wants Pavlik. He actively competes in 3 divisions.
          That's why I put him in the top 10.
          First, he dont even have a title defense, second, he beated a old as ****ed Phllips, and Phillips didnt quitted!!!!!!!

          Willaims resume
          Quintana
          Margarito
          no title defenses

          Thats not P4P Material

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Massage Queen View Post
            Because he has defied weight classes. He beat Margarito, and Quintana at 147. No one else wanted to fight him at that weight. He went up to 154 and beat the crap out of Verno Phillips, and made him quit. Then he went to 160 and KO'ed Andy Kolle in one round, and now he's going to fight Winky Wright at 160, and wants Pavlik. He actively competes in 3 divisions.
            That's why I put him in the top 10.
            40 year old Verno "11 losses" Phillips was the weakest title holder in boxing.

            Andy Kolle was a tomato can bum

            Williams hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse at 154 or 160

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Steelhammer2K9 View Post
              A 6'3 man with 82" reach fighting at 147 is just ridiculous. He is a coward that likes to pick on little men. Dude has longer reach than the Klitschko brothers. He should move up and pick on someone his own size.
              Sandy Saddler was a great featherweight with a longer reach than Rocky Marciano. Was he a coward?

              How about Tommy Hearns, would you consider him a coward for fighting at 147?

              There are fighters who are naturally thicker than Williams with greater strength that fight at 147. Margarito, Clottey are both physically stronger IMO than Williams, yet there is no uproar about those guys fighting there. Why, because they aren't as tall? Doesn't mean they aren't as big.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Steelhammer2K9 View Post
                40 year old Verno "11 losses" Phillips was the weakest title holder in boxing.

                Andy Kolle was a tomato can bum

                Williams hasn't beaten anybody with a pulse at 154 or 160
                If he beats Winky Wright, will you use the excuse that Wright was past his prime? Do you think Wright will beat Williams?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                  First, he dont even have a title defense, second, he beated a old as ****ed Phllips, and Phillips didnt quitted!!!!!!!

                  Willaims resume
                  Quintana
                  Margarito
                  no title defenses

                  Thats not P4P Material
                  That's just my opinion. Phillips did quit by the way. He quit on the stool. Don't you remember? (no disrespect)

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Steelhammer2K9
                    I'll give Williams credit and put him in my top 10 p4p if he beats Winky, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I think Winky will turn back the clock and give the overrated Williams a boxing lesson.
                    I'll remember to bump this post if Williams pulls out the win. By you making this post, you forego any rights to use his inactivity or age as an excuse.

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                    • #50
                      1) Manny Pacquiao
                      2) Juan Manuel Marquez
                      3) Bernard Hopkins
                      4) Israel Vazquez
                      5) Ivan Calderon
                      6) Rafael Marquez
                      7) Shane Mosley
                      8) Paul Williams
                      9) Chad Dawson
                      10) Vic Darchinyan

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