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  • #61
    Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
    Pacquiao
    J Marquez
    Hopkins
    Vazquez
    Mosley
    Calderon
    Dawson
    Darchinyan
    Williams
    Donaire
    Nonito Donaire is a interesting choice, why do you feel he should be rated higher than Caballero Celestino and Ricky Hatton ?

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    • #62
      My top 10..

      1. Manny. 2. JMM. 3. Vasquez. 4. B-Hop. 5. Calderon. 6. Cotto. 7. Williams 8. Mosley. 9. Darchinyan. 10. R. Marquez

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      • #63
        1. Pacquiao

        2. J.M. Marquez

        3. Vazquez

        4. Hopkins

        5. Calderon

        6. Darchinyan

        7. Dawson

        8. Mosley

        9. Cotto

        10. R. Marquez

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
          Since calzaghe retired. Whats your new p4P list? This is mine

          1.Pacquiao
          2.JMM
          3.B-Hop
          4.Vazquez
          5.Calderon
          6.Mosley
          7.Cotto
          8.Darchinyan
          9.Hatton
          10.Rafa Marquez
          I got
          1. Pacman
          2. B-Hop
          3. Calderon
          4. Vasquez
          5. JMM
          6. Rafa Marquez
          7. Cotto
          8. Dawson
          9. Mosley
          10. Darchinyan

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
            If he beats Winky Wright, will you use the excuse that Wright was past his prime? Do you think Wright will beat Williams?
            Winky is past his prime

            He`s 37 and hasnt fought in what will nearly be 2 years

            I think it is pretty reasonable to say Winky is past his prime, no?
            Last edited by SickmyDuck; 02-06-2009, 02:03 PM.

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            • #66
              I am irritated by everyone voting for Calderon.

              I might be missing something, so can someone explain this to me?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DarchinyFAN View Post
                I am irritated by everyone voting for Calderon.

                I might be missing something, so can someone explain this to me?
                Cazares was the LFly King and Calderon dethroned him and was beating him worse in the second fight before the stoppage.

                Thats what got him there and everyone around him keeps retiring or losing.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
                  Cazares was the LFly King and Calderon dethroned him and was beating him worse in the second fight before the stoppage.

                  Thats what got him there and everyone around him keeps retiring or losing.
                  Cazarez was not the lightfly king and if he was he wasn't a strong king. What does this basis of him being the king of this mighty division come from? Beating Nelson Dieppa?


                  So on the basis of him beating Cazares he is top 10 in the whole sport?

                  Sorry, but that is hardly justification.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by DarchinyFAN View Post
                    Cazarez was not the lightfly king and if he was he wasn't a strong king. What does this basis of him being the king of this mighty division come from? Beating Nelson Dieppa?


                    So on the basis of him beating Cazares he is top 10 in the whole sport?

                    Sorry, but that is hardly justification.
                    He was the lineal champ at 105. He had13 Titles defenses at 105, beating the likes of Sanchez, Cardenas, Leyva and Barrera.

                    At 108 he detroned, the hugely bigger Hugo cazarez. cazarez had a 6" height advantage, 5" reach advantage and outweighted Calderon by 14 and 15 pounds repectivly. He lost only 2 rounds in their first fight and he was shut cazarez out in the rematch till the stoppage. He beated top 5 contender Esquer and beated for 108 lineal Champ Nelson Dieppa.

                    If that is not enough for you then **** YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by DarchinyFAN View Post
                      Quickly thrown together

                      1. Manny Pacquiao
                      2. Juan Manuel Marquez
                      3. Bernard Hopkins
                      4. Israel Vazquez
                      5. Shane Mosley
                      6. Miguel Cotto
                      7. Ricky Hatton
                      8. Vic Darchinyan
                      9. Paul Williams
                      10. Chad Dawson or Rafael Marquez
                      Ya, I agree with this list.

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