Complaint: The Ring's p4p list

[Mozza]

sorry Mozza but your argument loses more and more credibility each post you make

i'm a big fan of Joe but some people really take it to extremes

My argument is that Calzaghe has performed better than Marquez of late. Everything else is a side issue however I notice that pretty much none of my points have been refuted.

[SHB]

Pac, Calzaghe and Marquez are interchangable at 1-3 IMO.

Although I have Pac at #1, Marquez beat Pac in their last fight IMO and he's got disproportionate praise for his two recent wins ... great though they were. Calzaghe either gets ridiculous criticism or excessive praise (usually in retaliation to the rubbish written about him).

[Joe2608]

Here is my list:

1) MANNY PACQUIAO

2) JOE CALZAGHE

3) JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ

4) BERNARD HOPKINS

5) ISRAEL VAZQUEZ

6) SHANE MOSLEY

7) IVAN CALDERON

8) VIC DARCHINYAN

9) PAUL WILLIAMS

10) RAFAEL MARQUEZ

I was tempted to put R Marquez higher, but i just can't when he has lost his last 2 fights, even though they were close fights. Shane Mosley has taken Margarito's place but he looks too high to me, but then again if i move him down then i can't think of anyone else worthy of being number 6 P4P so he will stay there for the time being. Vic deserves to be where he is and Paul Williams i think finally deserves to be in there.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

This is my top 25.
1.Pacquaio
2.Calzaghe
3.JMM
4.B-Hop
5.Vazquez
6.Calderon
7.Mosley
8.Cotto
9.Darchinyan
10.Hatton
11.Rafa Marquez
12.Dawson
13-Donaire
14.Williams
15.Kessler
16.Taylor
17.Caballero
18.Pavlik
19.Adamek
20.Margarito
21.Abraham
22.Campbell
23.Berto
24.Juanma Lopez
25.Forrest

[hammerhiem]

NO Heavyweights in the top 25? thats harsh man, really harsh, did Wlad dry hump your mother or something?.

thats a joke btw...

[Testdead]

Mosleys domination over Margarito could put him as far as #3 as far as Im concerned. I dont remember exactly, but wasnt Margarito #5 or 4 or something before Mosley beat the stuffing out of him? plus think about his one sided win over Collazo, and the fact that the Cotto fight actually could have gone either way, although most people did have Cotto winning.

Darchinyan should probebly deserve to be above Caballero.

Im not too big on Hatton being there either.

Im fine with Marquez being #2. he arguably just beat the number 1, and then went on to KO Casamayor.

I have a feeling it will be much different after this month.

Well Collazo broke his hand in the 2nd in 3 places so that win is scratch.

High as 3rd? man you is a nut. 6 is ok for me.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

NO Heavyweights in the top 25? thats harsh man, really harsh, did Wlad dry hump your mother or something?.

thats a joke btw...

Nah men. Its just that the HW division is so ****ty right now, anybody can take over the division. Matter of facts I think guys like Hopkins and Calzaghe can go up and Beat the K bros. Vitaly is OK, but Wlad lost to corry Sanders an Brewster. Anyways, no HW is deserving of Top rating IMO!!!!!!!!!!!

[Testdead]

This is my top 25.
1.Pacquaio
2.Calzaghe
3.JMM
4.B-Hop
5.Vazquez
6.Calderon
7.Mosley
8.Cotto
9.Darchinyan
10.Hatton
11.Rafa Marquez
12.Dawson
13-Donaire
14.Williams
15.Kessler
16.Taylor
17.Caballero
18.Pavlik
19.Adamek
20.Margarito
21.Abraham
22.Campbell
23.Berto
24.Juanma Lopez
25.Forrest

Pavlik top 25? thats bold.

[ИATAS]

Pavlik top 25? thats bold.

huh?? He was in the top 10 prior to losing to bhop, who is ranked #4

and the people upset about no heavyweights, well no **** heavyweights aren't supposed to be ranked in the pound 4 pound rankings.

[hammerhiem]

huh?? He was in the top 10 prior to losing to bhop, who is ranked #4

and the people upset about no heavyweights, well no **** heavyweights aren't supposed to be ranked in the pound 4 pound rankings.

why not?


Pound for pound means that if your took everyone and made them teh same weight they would be the best right?

So why exclude Hw's?