I asked a prospect who had sparred both Pacquiao and Margarito who hit harder....

[boxingsmash69]

I agree, it's a shame that Malignaggi's hands just can't withstand the force of punching somebody with 10 oz gloves on. Malignaggi is the classic case of a gun-shy fighter. If he had enough power to keep people off of him, he might still be undefeated.

Personally, I think Malignaggi has gotten as far as he could with his hands being as brittle as they are. I wouldn't want to see him get beat up in this sport. Maybe a few farewell fights should be in order, or if he'd be content keeping it on the local scene in NY, that'd be much sounder.

10oz gloves? Last I remember, I think 10oz. is used in the 147 and above divisions. Unless it's in Nevada, I think Nevada uses 10oz for 140 and above? I heard this was changed again, though.

Oh, poor Malignaggi. I wonder why he hasn't tried using Grant or Winning for his fights in the ring? He always uses Everlast in his fights. I see him wearing Winning in his training videos, though.

[1toTHADOME]

now THAT is fooking scary...what kind of rice were they feeding that ba5tard...geez

i know right?!?!? GOT DAMN!!!! he's dangerous. Hatton WILL BE OVERWHELMED. just like any other fighter Pacquiao fought.

[Mr. Ryan]

10oz gloves? Last I remember, I think 10oz. is used in the 147 and above divisions. Unless it's in Nevada, I think Nevada uses 10oz for 140 and above? I heard this was changed again, though.

Oh, poor Malignaggi. I wonder why he hasn't tried using Grant or Winning for his fights in the ring? He always uses Everlast in his fights. I see him wearing Winning in his training videos, though.

I think it's 135 pounds and above that wear 10 oz gloves. As for the gloves, maybe he feels most comfortable in Everlast or he might be sponsored by them. I've heard a lot of people say that Everlast isn't good for their hands.

[βetamax]

Power comes from the rotation of the body (legs and core), of course in addition to speed. What's the difference between a jab and a straight right? The body comes into play.

[PlasticFlamingo]

It just goes to show that unless you've been in there with a guy, you don't know how hard a guy hits. I was actually surprised because I respect Margarito's power, unless he has loaded wraps which is a judgment I'm waiting to hear from the investigation.

Still, holy crap, a former flyweight champion who hits harder than cruiserweights. Unheard of.

My guess is that the wraps did the difference between sparring and fight night. If Pac could hit more than a cruiserweight or enough to KO a Cotto, he could have just blasted DLH instead of punishing him into submission.

[Mr. Ryan]

My guess is that the wraps did the difference between sparring and fight night. If Pac could hit more than a cruiserweight or enough to KO a Cotto, he could have just blasted DLH instead of punishing him into submission.

Remember, the only guy to knock out DLH beforehand was a middleweight turned light-heavyweight named Bernard Hopkins.

[We want Floyd]

I don't know about PAC hittin' harder than cruiserweights.

I've sparred guys smaller, bigger, shorter, taller or same size as me. One thing I noticed about sparring much taller guys at heavier weights, is that they're usually not use to punching down or bend at the knees enough when throwing hooks as low as they need to when sparring a guy my height(I'm 5'7). Therefore , they cutdown about 50% of their real power when fighting much shorter opponents.

I don't know this Hakkar guy, you say he is a welterweight, well, on average, welterweights measure between 5'7 - 5'9 in height, cruiserweights are usually between 6'0 - 6'2, the tall dudes are simply not use to having to bend their legs that much. So alot of the leverage simply isn't their compared to when fighting someone their own size.


When a guy your own height hits ya, he is getting all his legs behind it. But when it's a much taller guy hittin' a much shorter fighter, his punches end up becoming arm punches, because it's simply too awkward for the taller guy to bend that low, they start to bend at the waist rather than at the knees just to hit their target, y'all get the picture?

I'm assuming this was what Hakkar or Hakkad was experiencing. Now, if it was one of those cruiserweights who have a low center of gravity, ala David Tua, I bet Hakkad or Hakkar would be singing a different tune.

[1toTHADOME]

My guess is that the wraps did the difference between sparring and fight night. If Pac could hit more than a cruiserweight or enough to KO a Cotto, he could have just blasted DLH instead of punishing him into submission.

what do you mean submission?! if DLH was to go anymore rounds, he would have gotten blasted! in fact, Pac was blasting him with so much power punches the whole fight, DLH had to go to the hospital right after the fight. fortunately, hes okay. it did look like blood was coming out his ear tho.

[warp1432]

I bet Rashad Holloway or whatever his name was, disagrees.

[PlasticFlamingo]

what do you mean submission?! if DLH was to go anymore rounds, he would have gotten blasted! in fact, Pac was blasting him with so much power punches the whole fight, DLH had to go to the hospital right after the fight. fortunately, hes okay. it did look like blood was coming out his ear tho.

"Submission" because Oscar wasn't actually KOd, he could have been and was quite damaged, but didn't, hence the word. Hopkins stopped a prime DLH, I just don't think that he is still has the resistance displayed against guys like Trinidad or Mosley. In all honesty, Cotto, Berto or Mosley probably have a decent shot to KO a weight-drained DLH at this moment.