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  • #71
    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
    Actually Margarito gained more weight than DLH and no, he didn't fight like a weight drained fighter, he fought the fight he normally fights, he just got outclassed, outfought, outjabbed, outpunched and outeverything'd that night, nobody had gone to his body effectively prior to this fight, Mosley did and that was the result, it doesn't mean he was weight drained. He got his punches off the way he normally did, his legs were under him, Mosley was just too good and too smart for him.

    And judging from his performances at 154, no he wouldn't knock Mosley out at 154, he loses his advantage in physical strength at 154, which is a big part of his style, if he comes back, he'll come back at 147 for sure.
    You're still here??, you are a persistant lil bastard arent you. When you can cut 35lbs in a few weeks and fight the next day after the weight in, come talk to me puto.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Puas View Post
      You're still here??, you are a persistant lil bastard arent you. When you can cut 35lbs in a few weeks and fight the next day after the weight in, come talk to me puto.
      He may have been affected by the weight but he wasn't weight drained, there's a difference there.

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      • #73
        stfu

        Originally posted by Calibre .223 View Post
        Damn! I have been talking about this with my friends since the day of the fight. I haven't seen ONE article by the so-called boxing writers that have made any mention of this. If anyone has a link that proves the contrary, please post it for me.

        Steve Kim said that AM looked more like a the "Tijuana Torta" at the start of his training camp than the Tornado. I've been telling people that weight troubles and a career defining performance combined with a good fight plan on Mosley's part spelled disaster. But I agree wholeheartedly with you and some of the other posters, the weight was most definitely a factor. Gaining 15 pounds over night is a tell-tale sign of dehydration!
        so gaining 2 pounds is no good and gaining 15 pounds is no good either??wat tickles ur balls???between 8 to 10 pounds??naaahh...8 to 10.5 is good but anything below or higher, theyre in trouble ..stfu...ur hombre go fd u[p...he is done son!!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Silencers View Post
          He may have been affected by the weight but he wasn't weight drained, there's a difference there.
          What the ****, is the difference you IDIOT. When a fighter is affected by the weight he lost prior to a fight, he is drained. You are not used to losing a ****in arguement, that's why you are still here. Get over it homie, ur ****in' lost.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by jeffersonyap View Post
            so gaining 2 pounds is no good and gaining 15 pounds is no good either??wat tickles ur balls???between 8 to 10 pounds??naaahh...8 to 10.5 is good but anything below or higher, theyre in trouble ..stfu...ur hombre go fd u[p...he is done son!!
            When you've had to do it, come talk to me. You don't know **** about cutting weight, so STFU.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Puas View Post
              What the ****, is the difference you IDIOT. When a fighter is affected by the weight he lost prior to a fight, he is drained. You are not used to losing a ****in arguement, that's why you are still here. Get over it homie, ur ****in' lost.
              Being affected by weight means that you feel the effects in the ring but not to the point of not being able to fight effectively, if you're weight drained, you don't have your legs, punch resistance is not there and you can't get off with your shots, Margarito didn't have those problems, his problem was Sugar Shane Mosley.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                Being affected by weight means that you feel the effects in the ring but not to the point of not being able to fight effectively, if you're weight drained, you don't have your legs, punch resistance is not there and you can't get off with your shots, Margarito didn't have those problems, his problem was Sugar Shane Mosley.
                Have you ever stepped foot in a ring????


                Have you ever had to cut weight prior to a fight????


                That's what I thought.


                Mr Know It All

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Puas View Post
                  Have you ever stepped foot in a ring????


                  Have you ever had to cut weight prior to a fight????


                  That's what I thought.


                  Mr Know It All
                  Have you? I've watched enough boxing and talked to enough people to know what I'm talking about but hey, maybe you're right, I don't know ****.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Puas View Post
                    You're still here??, you are a persistant lil bastard arent you. When you can cut 35lbs in a few weeks and fight the next day after the weight in, come talk to me puto.
                    Puas chill out


                    Margarito didn't get enough room to throw. Shane would either get too close or clinch and ofcourse this would result in lowering Margarito's power/ output. Same thing happend to Pavlik, when he faced B-Hop. Unlike Cotto, Shane wasn't throwing off his back foot. He stood his ground and put some serious weight behind those punches...Just from watching 1-3 I knew it was only a matter of time.

                    DLH on the other WAS weight drained. DLH had the distance he needed, could have thrown the jab, turn Pac and get out of the ropes...but he was clearly too weak. Like everyone said "He was a zoombie" Which also left alot of people sayin "Anyone could have beaten him that night" Which was damn true

                    So Margarito's case was NOTHING like DLHs

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Puas View Post
                      You're still here??, you are a persistant lil bastard arent you. When you can cut 35lbs in a few weeks and fight the next day after the weight in, come talk to me puto.
                      Puas chill out


                      Margarito didn't get enough room to throw. Shane would either get too close or clinch and ofcourse this would result in lowering Margarito's power/ output. Same thing happend to Pavlik, when he faced B-Hop. Unlike Cotto, Shane wasn't throwing off his back foot. He stood his ground and put some serious weight behind those punches...Just from watching 1-3 I knew it was only a matter of time.

                      DLH on the other hand WAS weight drained. DLH had the distance he needed, could have thrown the jab, turn Pac and get out of the ropes...but he was clearly too weak. Like everyone said "He was a zoombie" Which also left alot of people sayin "Anyone could have beaten him that night" Which was damn true

                      So Margarito's case was NOTHING like DLHs

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