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  • #51
    Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
    Yeah it sure is being a ***** when a plaster like object was found in the hand wraps after the first wrapping. They did it just to be careful so they could be ready to go. They didn't want to make a mistake and get ****ed over. He was doing his job.
    so did they magically slip plaster in again the second time right in front of him and get caught again? and then get caught again after that? Him making them re wrap it three times just shows you he was just trying to get things his way and made nothing into something. tell me what could have been wrong the 2nd and 3rd times they wrapped his hands in front of nazim? why 3 times?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by .Rogelio. View Post
      so now the nevada athletic commission didn't check closely and just signed the wrapping with thier job on the line none of your arguments are really based on facts just your opinions so no big deal, but you are really reaching. Nevada commission is one of the most toughest commission in sport, and they talk their job serious. They don't fuk around in nevada when it comes to sports and officials. Any slight mistake would be A HUGE DEAL and any sign of foul play from a nevada official is nothing less then JAIL TIME! In nevada, you don't mess with sports, that's a federal crime!!

      those wraps are normal and THEY LOOK NORMAL. you saying they don't look normal and are huge just shows you haven't seen many wraps. Plus take a look at some dlh vs manny press pics. Look at the angles you would think they are the same size but reality is they are not!
      I'm saying, **** happens. Keith Keizer obviously isn't going to say "Uh oh we didn't look closely enough so he might of been guilty." They **** up in Nevada plenty of times. Look at Lorenzo-Soto.

      The wraps do not look normal to me man. You obviously aren't going to agree, but there is not much I can say. I've made my case.

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      • #53
        Further from the same article which references the Tito incident:

        Richardson has served as a long-time trainer to Bernard Hopkins and raised a similar issue before Hopkins' fight with Tito Trinidad 2001 at the Garden. Richardson objected when Felix Trinidad Sr. was wrapping Tito's hands with layers of gauze, then layers of tape, then more gauze and tape, etc. Layering is against the rules of the New York State Athletic Commission.

        Credit Richardson for reading in advance the CSAC's rules on taping. He even brought up the subject during the rules meeting before the fight. "I've been through this before," Richardson said. "I don't want to tarnish nobody's image. Margarito might not have known what was going on because he wasn't really objecting to being rewrapped. But somebody did it."

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        • #54
          Interesting.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Flawless. View Post
            Simple Mayweather doesn't cheat.
            I don't wanna discredit Shane's win with this statement but I just wanna point out one simple thing to this idiot.

            Steroids Stupid!!!!!

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            • #56
              Quoting this from the last page in case the idiots did not see it.

              Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
              if you morons actually took the time to read the articles, Nazim was NOT there for the wrapping of Margarito's left hand, which prompted this whole thing. The rules state that a trainer has the option to be present during the wrapping of the hands, Nazim came to be a witness and Margarito's left handalready was wrapped. Nazim had the right to ask that he re-wrap the hand so that he can be present (any good trainer that wants to protect their fighter would do this). During the re-wrap that's when he noticed the substance, "a little square block of old wet gauze packed real tight came out. It was like it had plaster on it."
              Here's what happened. The controversy began when Richardson was in Margarito's dressing room to witness the wrapping of his hands as allowed by CSAC rules. One hand already had been wrapped and approved by the CSAC before Richardson's arrival.

              In the process of wrapping the other hand, Richardson questioned the amount of tape going directly on Margarito's skin, and asked for a rewrapping. During the rewrapping, it got to a point where a cushion was placed across Margarito's knuckles. But when Richardson asked if he could "feel" the cushion that's when the Margarito camp began to protest.

              Margarito's co-manager Francisco Espinoza was the most defiant telling Richardson, "I expected this from you," to which Richardson said: "You should expect me to do my job."

              Over protests from the Margarito camp, Richardson was allowed to feel the cushion. "It was brick hard," said Richardson, who told the Lohuis to feel it himself. Once Lohuis felt the cushion he ordered that it be "opened up," Richardson said.

              "When he opened it up, a little square block of old wet gauze packed real tight came out," Richardson said. "It was like it had plaster on it. I think it had an old dried up blood stain on it."

              Richardson asked Margarito's previously wrapped hand be inspected as well, and another hard block of gauze was found in that wrapping. According to witnesses, a doctor for the Mosley camp inspected the two blocks of hardened gauze and said, "This is what we use in the hospital to make casts."

              http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/willi..._calls_do.html

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              • #57
                Originally posted by .Rogelio. View Post
                so did they magically slip plaster in again the second time right in front of him and get caught again? and then get caught again after that? Him making them re wrap it three times just shows you he was just trying to get things his way and made nothing into something. tell me what could have been wrong the 2nd and 3rd times they wrapped his hands in front of nazim? why 3 times?
                He wanted to know probably if they were they were wrapping just turned out that way or what. Also it could be a precaution.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                  if you morons actually took the time to read the articles, Nazim was NOT there for the wrapping of Margarito's left hand, which prompted this whole thing. The rules state that a trainer has the option to be present during the wrapping of the hands, Nazim came to be a witness and Margarito's left handalready was wrapped. Nazim had the right to ask that he re-wrap the hand so that he can be present (any good trainer that wants to protect their fighter would do this). During the re-wrap that's when he noticed the substance, "a little square block of old wet gauze packed real tight came out. It was like it had plaster on it."
                  Here's what happened. The controversy began when Richardson was in Margarito's dressing room to witness the wrapping of his hands as allowed by CSAC rules. One hand already had been wrapped and approved by the CSAC before Richardson's arrival.

                  In the process of wrapping the other hand, Richardson questioned the amount of tape going directly on Margarito's skin, and asked for a rewrapping. During the rewrapping, it got to a point where a cushion was placed across Margarito's knuckles. But when Richardson asked if he could "feel" the cushion that's when the Margarito camp began to protest.

                  Margarito's co-manager Francisco Espinoza was the most defiant telling Richardson, "I expected this from you," to which Richardson said: "You should expect me to do my job."

                  Over protests from the Margarito camp, Richardson was allowed to feel the cushion. "It was brick hard," said Richardson, who told the Lohuis to feel it himself. Once Lohuis felt the cushion he ordered that it be "opened up," Richardson said.

                  "When he opened it up, a little square block of old wet gauze packed real tight came out," Richardson said. "It was like it had plaster on it. I think it had an old dried up blood stain on it."

                  Richardson asked Margarito's previously wrapped hand be inspected as well, and another hard block of gauze was found in that wrapping. According to witnesses, a doctor for the Mosley camp inspected the two blocks of hardened gauze and said, "This is what we use in the hospital to make casts."

                  http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/willi..._calls_do.html
                  your the moron that would try to post someone's fuken blog and pass it as facts.

                  better luck next time

                  http://www.15rounds.com/maragrito-mo...-wraps-012509/

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                  • #59
                    Left hand was already wrapped when no one was present. That's one time.
                    They unwrapped, and re-wrapped it this time with a witness, this is when they noticed the substance and had to be removed. Re-wrap them.That's two.
                    They had to unwrap and wrap the right hand as well because the sustance was also found there during the 2nd wrapping. That's three times.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by .Rogelio. View Post
                      your the moron that would try to post someone's fuken blog and pass it as facts.

                      better luck next time

                      http://www.15rounds.com/maragrito-mo...-wraps-012509/
                      It's from the NYPOST idiot.

                      And if you're going to call me a moron, get it right - it's YOU'RE not your. As in, you are a moron. Your would imply that I own a moron. And that is simply not the case because if I did you would be locked in a cage in my garage.

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