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  • Technical_Skill
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    #41
    Originally posted by RL_GMA
    The thing with Floyd if you're comparing him to guys like Cotto or Mosley is they're not afraid to brawl if they have to, they're finishers.

    I've been saying for a while that Floyd has problems with fighters who utilize their jab and Cotto without a doubt has one of the best jabs in the business. That along with his style IMO could pose a threat to Floyd. Cotto is a lot smarter in the ring than people think and he can change his game plan throughout the fight.

    Mosley, Pac, Cotto = Should be Floyd's next 3 opponents. Those names with a W next to them would be astonishing.
    I semi-agree in that one of the only chances to beat floyd comes by establishing a jab.

    Personally, for me floyd has way too much technique for the names you mentioned, i honestly dont believe we have seen his maximum potential because he hasnt ever really been tested to the limits.

    Like i have said before, many people get the wrong idea about floyd and assume he is all speed, its not, his timing is insane and fighters just cannot read him at all.

    There is a video of him on youtube explaining some of his tactics, he explains how he changes rhythms mid fight so fighters cant work him out and how he times a punch according to when the other guy is least going to expect it.

    Technically he is very deep, and to be honest, he could just run around the ring jabbing guys for 12 rounds, but he has so much more to his skillset.

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    • 1toTHADOME
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      #42
      Originally posted by The_Executioner
      Lol yea midget Manny would stop Floyd at 147? Good one
      he sho woullddddd!!!! you ****ers underestimate the lil ****er! floyd's all talk til he comes out of retirement!! he's a ***** til he steps in the ring and he's damn well NOTHING to boxing til he proves himself. he left proving NOTHING. just coz he was unbeatin does not mean shizzznaaappp! as far as im concerned, Pacquiao is best fighter of the decade. NOT Mayweather.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #43
        Originally posted by 1toTHADOME
        he sho woullddddd!!!! you ****ers underestimate the lil ****er! floyd's all talk til he comes out of retirement!! he's a ***** til he steps in the ring and he's damn well NOTHING to boxing til he proves himself. he left proving NOTHING. just coz he was unbeatin does not mean shizzznaaappp! as far as im concerned, Pacquiao is best fighter of the decade. NOT Mayweather.


        **** at its best.

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        • 1toTHADOME
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          #44
          Originally posted by Technical_Skill


          **** at its best.
          not even! look, mayweather is great, wait dont want retype so ima rephrase this *****. mayweather WAS great, but he shouldn't have left so early. he was my favorite boxer and i believed he could have gone further with his career. him retiring is just hella disappointing. what he needs to do is come back and prove that he's up there with the top 10 ATG.

          but yeah, i still think PACQUIAO would beat him tho. it'd be a close ass match but i'll give it to manny if they were ever to face.

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          • RL_GMA
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            #45
            Originally posted by Technical_Skill
            I semi-agree in that one of the only chances to beat floyd comes by establishing a jab.

            Personally, for me floyd has way too much technique for the names you mentioned, i honestly dont believe we have seen his maximum potential because he hasnt ever really been tested to the limits.

            Like i have said before, many people get the wrong idea about floyd and assume he is all speed, its not, his timing is insane and fighters just cannot read him at all.

            There is a video of him on youtube explaining some of his tactics, he explains how he changes rhythms mid fight so fighters cant work him out and how he times a punch according to when the other guy is least going to expect it.

            Technically he is very deep, and to be honest, he could just run around the ring jabbing guys for 12 rounds, but he has so much more to his skillset.
            Floyd is a great technical fighter, but he hasn't shown what he can do against any #1 guy in years, there's no denying that.

            I credit him for beating Oscar and Hatton, but in no way were those guys the best fighters he could've fought (or still can fight). Now I'm not saying that every guy that comes along will be the next guy to beat Floyd, but it's no secret Mosley & Cotto have been in the running for close to 2 years (maybe 3-4 yrs for Mosley) and Floyd hasn't budged to take a fight with either one of them (which would be huge W's on his resume)

            Floyd could beat both of them, but Cotto and Mosley both can too. Both fights make huge money just off the hype its been building for years. The question is whether Floyd's camp wants to take the risk. I think it's safe to say all his safe fights are over and done with. If he does return, the comp level will be at an all time high for Floyd...and that's all I wanna see (win or lose).

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            • Technical_Skill
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              #46
              Originally posted by RL_GMA
              Floyd is a great technical fighter, but he hasn't shown what he can do against any #1 guy in years, there's no denying that.

              I credit him for beating Oscar and Hatton, but in no way were those guys the best fighters he could've fought (or still can fight). Now I'm not saying that every guy that comes along will be the next guy to beat Floyd, but it's no secret Mosley & Cotto have been in the running for close to 2 years (maybe 3-4 yrs for Mosley) and Floyd hasn't budged to take a fight with either one of them (which would be huge W's on his resume)

              Floyd could beat both of them, but Cotto and Mosley both can too. Both fights make huge money just off the hype its been building for years. The question is whether Floyd's camp wants to take the risk. I think it's safe to say all his safe fights are over and done with. If he does return, the comp level will be at an all time high for Floyd...and that's all I wanna see (win or lose).
              The floyd ducking mosley stuff is bull****. Watch Floyd vs Henry Brussels at 140 pounds, he calls Mosley out live on the post fight interview with larry merchant. Then he wanted to fight mosley after the DLH fight i think, and mosley started talking about toothache and didnt wanna know.

              Floyd also said a few times that cotto wanted none of him, he said every time cotto was asked about him he would say "I only fight who my promoter wants me to fight" and that cotto wouldnt call him out live on tv, so its not purely a one way thing as to why those fights havent happened.

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              • cortdawg25
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                #47
                Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                In light of saturday its hard to pick Margarito to win but I honestly think it's a different fight than the Baldomir fight. Marg is taller than Baldomir, and has a better chin IMO. Without getting pushed backwards and clinched, the way Mosley was able to achieve which is a result of his Mosley's strength I think Margorito is much more effective. I think it's false to judge margarito by his domination of Cotto but I also think it's false to treat Margarito as a clubfighter b/c of Mosley's domination over him. I do agree with DJR005's picks. Pacman, Williams and Cotto would give PBF most trouble. I think PBF is bothered more by speed(Pacquiao) than pressure. Cotto has a bit of both so he would also be a good candidate.
                i question if Margarito chin is better than Baldomir. Forrest dropped relentless bombs on Baldomir and he was still their and this was at jr MW. And this is the same forrest who almost KOed Mosley when he was in his prime. Me personally, Margarito couldn't touch or hurt what he can't hit. Mosley isn't really known for defense, couple that with Margarito no defense....Floyd UD him 10 out of 10 times. Skillwise Margarito just can't compare...witnessed by mostly who is a step or two slower than Mayweather.

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                • cortdawg25
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by RL_GMA
                  Floyd is a great technical fighter, but he hasn't shown what he can do against any #1 guy in years, there's no denying that.

                  I credit him for beating Oscar and Hatton, but in no way were those guys the best fighters he could've fought (or still can fight). Now I'm not saying that every guy that comes along will be the next guy to beat Floyd, but it's no secret Mosley & Cotto have been in the running for close to 2 years (maybe 3-4 yrs for Mosley) and Floyd hasn't budged to take a fight with either one of them (which would be huge W's on his resume)

                  Floyd could beat both of them, but Cotto and Mosley both can too. Both fights make huge money just off the hype its been building for years. The question is whether Floyd's camp wants to take the risk. I think it's safe to say all his safe fights are over and done with. If he does return, the comp level will be at an all time high for Floyd...and that's all I wanna see (win or lose).
                  No #1 guys. Hatton was top 5 p4p when they fought. Oscar was the jr mw champ, who beat the champ in Mayorga. Cotto was just stepping up to Mosley at the time. Margarito always was just hype and he lost to Williams. Everyine wanted Hatton and thought Hatton had what it takes to win. No #1 guys....hilarious!

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