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  • #21
    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
    Definitely, experience would have helped him a lot yesterday, he didn't know how to adapt at all.

    The first sign that I saw that made me think that Margarito was in for a long night was the walk in, Mosley looked the picture of focus and intensity while Margarito just didn't have that fire in his eyes that was there for the Cotto fight or the fights previous to that, and then in the first round, he got hit by a Mosley right I think and seemed to get stunned by it and moved back, I knew by that point that it was going to be a very tough fight for him.

    The constant complaining was an indication too, when a fighter complains to the referee, it normally means they are uncomfortable, apart from guys like Hopkins who complains to the referee to their own gains and yeah, once I saw that Mosley could stand in there and trade with Margarito, I knew it was Mosley's fight to lose.

    I definitely did not expect Mosley to be able to push Margarito back the way he did, I was also surprised at how big Mosley looked, he looked almost as big as Margarito and looked stronger than him.

    Another indicator to me that Margarito was in for a long night was Mosley landing body shots in the first round, no one has landed hard body shots on Margarito as consistently as Mosley did.

    The clinching was a big factor too, I mean every time Margarito tried to get something going, Mosley would either jab him or clinch him to get Margarito out of his rhythm.

    Great gameplan from Richardson and great execution from Mosley.
    I thought the same, he looked like Tito, in the Winky fight. he was all fashion and Flashy, and focusing more on looking pretty, than the fight itself. Another indicator was that the first body punch Mosley landed margaritos knees buckled.

    I never thought Mosley could do that, but I did said that Mosley was KD Margarito, because, Margo took to many punches from Cotto and Others and that can **** you up real quick.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
      I thought the same, he looked like Tito, in the Winky fight. he was all fashion and Flashy, and focusing more on looking pretty, than the fight itself. Another indicator was that the first body punch Mosley landed margaritos knees buckled.

      I never thought Mosley could do that, but I did said that Mosley was KD Margarito, because, Margo took to many punches from Cotto and Others and that can **** you up real quick.
      Yeah, his eyes were very dull compared to when he fought Cotto or when he fought Cintron, his eyes were intense and had that fire in them when he came into the ring for those fights, it wasn't there yesterday.

      The body punching was a big factor in the fight.

      Only time will tell whether his chin is cracked or not, maybe him getting knocked out was because he had never gotten hit with such powerful punches on such a consistent basis, no one can take Mosley's shots with full force all night without crumbling, Margarito took them for 8 rounds, some of the shots Mosley landed before round 8 were incredibly hard, not many people could have stood up to them but Margarito did, all I'm saying is his chin may still be very, very good and not cracked just yet, as I said, time will tell.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
        Was how little survival instinct Margarito had when he was hurt. He just seemed to have no experience with things not going his way and when to tie someone up and buy time. Once he was hurt he had no way of defending himself.

        While I picked Margarito to win, I always said a guy could not beat Margarito by running away. The faster you run, the faster he chases you. You have to fight Margarito and back him up, which is how Mosley did it.

        I thought the corner should have followed their first instincts to stop the fight because he was a sitting duck. What happened was inevitability, he got creamed and really hurt.

        But what it shows is that nobody is invincible. Nobody thought it could happen to Margarito, just as some people think it can never happen to Mayweather, Vitali and others.

        On any given night against the wrong guy, it most certainly can.
        I get your point, but you really did not express yourself very well. You started fine when you began with the whole "being hurt" thing, but then you turned it into dealing with adversity and losing, which is NOT the same as being hurt. It's true that he may not have been close to being knocked out, but he has faced adversity MANY times.

        "He just seemed to have no experience with things not going his way"

        You should've said "with getting close to being KO'd", because a guy with 5 losses is used to things not going his way sometimes. Even in fights he won, like Clottey, and Cotto, for the first half of the fight, things were not going his way.

        "But what it shows is that nobody is invincible. "

        Kinda obvious when it's his SIXTH loss.

        "Nobody thought it could happen to Margarito, just as some people think it can never happen to Mayweather, Vitali and others."

        Like I said, I get your point, but it's blasphemy to compare Margarito to Mayweather, even when all you want to do is support your argument that "anything can happen"

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        • #24
          Originally posted by tito yuca View Post
          I get your point, but you really did not express yourself very well. You started fine when you began with the whole "being hurt" thing, but then you turned it into dealing with adversity and losing, which is NOT the same as being hurt. It's true that he may not have been close to being knocked out, but he has faced adversity MANY times.

          "He just seemed to have no experience with things not going his way"

          You should've said "with getting close to being KO'd", because a guy with 5 losses is used to things not going his way sometimes. Even in fights he won, like Clottey, and Cotto, for the first half of the fight, things were not going his way.

          "But what it shows is that nobody is invincible. "

          Kinda obvious when it's his SIXTH loss.

          "Nobody thought it could happen to Margarito, just as some people think it can never happen to Mayweather, Vitali and others."

          Like I said, I get your point, but it's blasphemy to compare Margarito to Mayweather, even when all you want to do is support your argument that "anything can happen"
          Maybe you should be the writer then.

          You say it's kinda obvious that he isn't invincible. What I mean by him being invincible is that most people had this impression of him that he was immune to the knockout, that he was impervious to the effects of punching. Mosley showed that to be a fallacy. It also serves as an example to boxing fans that on any given night, anyone, even Margarito, can get knocked out.

          Blasphemy comparing one welterweight champion to another? I thought you were a Cotto fan, I wasn't aware that Mayweather was your guy as well. Margarito's durability and ability to absorb punches has long been lauded, much more than Mayweather's (though Mayweather has never been KO'ed or legitimately knocked down).

          It can happen to Mayweather too, though his defensive evasiveness decreases the odds that he would absorb a sustained beating the way that Margarito did. Do not kid yourself, it's inadvisable.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Silencers View Post
            Yeah, his eyes were very dull compared to when he fought Cotto or when he fought Cintron, his eyes were intense and had that fire in them when he came into the ring for those fights, it wasn't there yesterday.

            The body punching was a big factor in the fight.

            Only time will tell whether his chin is cracked or not, maybe him getting knocked out was because he had never gotten hit with such powerful punches on such a consistent basis, no one can take Mosley's shots with full force all night without crumbling, Margarito took them for 8 rounds, some of the shots Mosley landed before round 8 were incredibly hard, not many people could have stood up to them but Margarito did, all I'm saying is his chin may still be very, very good and not cracked just yet, as I said, time will tell.
            Once a fighter breaks, it's easier for him to break a second time. I think a knockout affects you mentally, as well as physically. For a fighter to take the punches all night, he must have the confidence that he can continue to do so while carrying out his own game plan. Getting KO'ed the way Margarito did will affect his confidence down the line.

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            • #26
              seeing Margarito get backed up was pretty surprising

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
                Once a fighter breaks, it's easier for him to break a second time. I think a knockout affects you mentally, as well as physically. For a fighter to take the punches all night, he must have the confidence that he can continue to do so while carrying out his own game plan. Getting KO'ed the way Margarito did will affect his confidence down the line.
                This being said Margarito-Cotto II will make for an incredible fight if it takes place..

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                • #28
                  the clottey fight is and always was the blueprint on how to beat margarito shane just perfected it but if u watch the clottey fight and the mosley fight they are very similar, clottey fought with margarito in the middle of the ring never let his back touch the ropes clottey got inside margarito and foght with him at close rang and was gettin the better of margarito on the inside due mostly to the fact that margarito's punches r slow and easy to telegraph

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
                    Was how little survival instinct Margarito had when he was hurt. He just seemed to have no experience with things not going his way and when to tie someone up and buy time. Once he was hurt he had no way of defending himself.

                    While I picked Margarito to win, I always said a guy could not beat Margarito by running away. The faster you run, the faster he chases you. You have to fight Margarito and back him up, which is how Mosley did it.

                    I thought the corner should have followed their first instincts to stop the fight because he was a sitting duck. What happened was inevitability, he got creamed and really hurt.

                    But what it shows is that nobody is invincible. Nobody thought it could happen to Margarito, just as some people think it can never happen to Mayweather, Vitali and others.

                    On any given night against the wrong guy, it most certainly can.
                    Actually Mosley won by fighting smart. He did the exact opposite of what cotto did. He moved and punched, swith directions and angles, and most importantly tied and pushed Margarito back to the middle of the ring when he felt his back hit the ropes. Mosley knew Margarito couldn't see him in the middle of the ring and once he found he was just as strong or stornger than margarito he outboxed him on the inside too. Mosley was very focused, but Maragrit was there to be hit as always!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Sensational! View Post
                      Also, that last punched that knocked Margarito down a second time was completely unnecessary. The ref was a split-second late in noticing the towel and it cost him.
                      yea just like margo hit cotto when he was on a knee right????karmas a *****

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