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  • #31
    Originally posted by aether View Post
    if he makes 147, he's a welterweight. a freakishly huge welterweight
    According to the rules, yes.

    I just think the rules might have to be evaluated, putting on a few pounds due to re-hydration is one thing, coming into to welterweight fight at nearly supermiddleweight is dangerous for the opponnent. Im not targeting Margarito alone with this comment, im talking about cintron and i said the same when williams was coming in at around 160 pounds for a welterweight fight.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
      According to the rules, yes.

      I just think the rules might have to be evaluated, putting on a few pounds due to re-hydration is one thing, coming into to welterweight fight at nearly supermiddleweight is dangerous for the opponnent. Im not targeting Margarito alone with this comment, im talking about cintron and i said the same when williams was coming in at around 160 pounds for a welterweight fight.
      its fair imo. the ability to make the weight class where the boxer is the most effective has always been a part of the game.

      what your saying is as good as saying floyd should not fight at lightweight cause he was faster than anyone at that weight class

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      • #33
        Originally posted by aether View Post
        its fair imo. the ability to make the weight class where the boxer is the most effective has always been a part of the game.

        what your saying is as good as saying floyd should not fight at lightweight cause he was faster than anyone at that weight class
        Im telling you what I am saying, no need to speculate.

        I am just saying perhaps the rules should be evaluated because the health risks for both are huge, you have boxers dehydrating themselves to get down to weight, then putting pounds back on again within a 24 hour period. You could also have a case where a fighter genuinely comes into a welterweight fight at 147-150 pounds, and has to go up against a guy who weighs nearly 170 on fight night.

        There needs to be an investigation into wether the weight limits are being abused by fighters.

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        • #34
          Sounds like Margarito is trying to do the same thing he used to ***** about Floyd Mayweather doing, in seeking out the best risk/reward ratios. Next thing you know he will be telling guys they havent earned the right to face him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
            Im telling you what I am saying, no need to speculate.

            I am just saying perhaps the rules should be evaluated because the health risks for both are huge, you have boxers dehydrating themselves to get down to weight, then putting pounds back on again within a 24 hour period. You could also have a case where a fighter genuinely comes into a welterweight fight at 147-150 pounds, and has to go up against a guy who weighs nearly 170 on fight night.

            There needs to be an investigation into wether the weight limits are being abused by fighters.
            being dehydrated before the fight is the fault of the boxer and the ones over seeing his training camp. if he loses because of that reason, he has no one to blame but himself.

            gaining additional pounds to get a size advantage is part of the game. makes boxing more intriguing. plus, if the boxer's body can go down a certain weight and gain extra pounds at fight night, why not exploit it?

            size is an advantage, much like skill, experience, power, speed, etc... a boxer should use every advantage he has.

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            • #36
              If Margarito fights a guy his size or bigger, he will lose more than likely.. thats why he is in the welterweight division and he wont leave.. He does his thing but people shouldnt call that man superman or make it seem like he's some super bad ass because if he's a great as all his fans claim, he should move up in weight and prove himself right? Thats the same thing yall ask of Mayweather, PAcquiao, Jones, Calzaghe, and others

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mellow_mood View Post


                solid one....


                always crying about D in pr....
                No one is crying...bringing up the Santos Technical Split D. over Margarito is silly. the FIGHT WAS STOPPED EARLY..duh, from a headbutt cut caused by SANTOS..even a PR judge had MArgo up...its funny how people who never saw the fight mention the loss.. its kinda like dissin Collazo for losing to Berto or Glen Johnson for losing to Chad Dawson.. no I take that back it's not silly, it's just ******.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
                  According to the rules, yes.

                  I just think the rules might have to be evaluated, putting on a few pounds due to re-hydration is one thing, coming into to welterweight fight at nearly supermiddleweight is dangerous for the opponnent. Im not targeting Margarito alone with this comment, im talking about cintron and i said the same when williams was coming in at around 160 pounds for a welterweight fight.
                  Cintron walks around at 155lbs, so 147 isnt a stretch for him at all. For guys like hatton there is a possible health issue with fluctuating so much but if he makes the weight, he makes the weight. But for guys that are just disciplined, what's the big deal? I have friends that are over 6' tall and weigh 160 and i'm 5'9" and 185. We're both in shape but people carry weight differently.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by C.Y. View Post
                    If Margarito fights a guy his size or bigger, he will lose more than likely.. thats why he is in the welterweight division and he wont leave.. He does his thing but people shouldnt call that man superman or make it seem like he's some super bad ass because if he's a great as all his fans claim, he should move up in weight and prove himself right? Thats the same thing yall ask of Mayweather, PAcquiao, Jones, Calzaghe, and others
                    He didnt lose to Danny Perez or Cintron or Clottey..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by aether View Post
                      being dehydrated before the fight is the fault of the boxer and the ones over seeing his training camp. if he loses because of that reason, he has no one to blame but himself.

                      gaining additional pounds to get a size advantage is part of the game. makes boxing more intriguing. plus, if the boxer's body can go down a certain weight and gain extra pounds at fight night, why not exploit it?

                      size is an advantage, much like skill, experience, power, speed, etc... a boxer should use every advantage he has.
                      Yes, but the fact is, dehydration goes on, I wouldnt be surprised if it was very common and it seems dangerous, some top fighters have put on a stone through re-hydration in 24hrs, how the **** is that healthy?

                      I agree to some extent about the advantage, but how much of an advantage is it before the weight classes are being abused, what is the point of having weight classes if one boxer can come into a fight more than a stone heavier than another?

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