They have Calzaghe as ATG but not Mosley? WTF?

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bit hypocritical to rate Dawson's wins over Johnson and Tarver but not Calzaghe's wins over Eubank and Hopkins

not really since eubank wasn't even ranked at supermiddle when calzaghe fought him and he got a gift against hopkins.

[S.G.]

you really believe that pathetic excuse. he NEVER had power. watch his early fights he fights the same exact way. slappy windmilling maniac. all his stoppages the other guy is never hurt even if he gets hit cleanly a bunch of times.

not true

Byron Mitchell springs to mind immediately

[S.G.]

not really since eubank wasn't even ranked at supermiddle when calzaghe fought him and he got a gift against hopkins.

Dawson could be said to have got a gift against Johnson in the same way

Tarver was further past it than Eubank... the evidence is in the fight, and we'll see how Tarver looks in the rematch to safely class him as completely over the hill

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Read my point again: Calzaghe landed more accurate punches than Hopkins did.

You keep saying Calzaghe didn't win the fight, but please explain what Hopkins did to be so deserving of victory? Why was he feigning low blows when he was winning so clearly in your eyes?

you think calzaghe was more accurate? how is throwing 1000 slaps and only having about 3 clean lands in a whole fight accurate? WHICH PLANET YOU LIVING ON. faking low blows? since when was it fake? he clearly hit him low. calzaghe even said he did it on purpose cause he's such a loser. i'm wondering if you actually watched the fight. i'm thinking no if you can't even remember simple details. maybe you watched it in WELSHVISION where everytime calzaghe throws a punch an explosion sounds.

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not true

Byron Mitchell springs to mind immediately

early stoppage whats your point?

[andrewcuff]

you really believe that pathetic excuse. he NEVER had power. watch his early fights he fights the same exact way. slappy windmilling maniac. .

I have his early fights and while he did tend to throw his slappy hooks even then, they were thrown with much more conviction.

all his stoppages the other guy is never hurt even if he gets hit cleanly a bunch of times

*Sarcastic* Really? All of his fights? Slight exaggeration don't you think. I might remind you of the Mitchell fight. Got dropped, got up and knocked the guy out in the same round. Not bad for a slappy windmill.

[Dynamite Kid]

I have his early fights and while he did tend to throw his slappy hooks even then, they were thrown with much more conviction.


*Sarcastic* Really? All of his fights? Slight exaggeration don't you think. I might remind you of the Mitchell fight. Got dropped, got up and knocked the guy out in the same round. Not bad for a slappy windmill.

TKO and premature at that.

[S.G.]

early stoppage whats your point?

an opponent with a reputed strong chin, being severely hurt by Calzaghe

no one's saying Calzaghe went from Foreman to Locche overnight... but he had respectable power before his hands started to badly suffer from the wear and tear

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Dawson could be said to have got a gift against Johnson in the same way

Tarver was further past it than Eubank... the evidence is in the fight, and we'll see how Tarver looks in the rematch to safely class him as completely over the hill

eubank hadn't won a meaningful fight in over 3 years. tarver just beat clinton woods for the ibf title. the evidence is in the fight? dawson dominated him cause dawson is good. so by your logic pavlik is past it cause hopkins dominated him.

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I have his early fights and while he did tend to throw his slappy hooks even then, they were thrown with much more conviction.


*Sarcastic* Really? All of his fights? Slight exaggeration don't you think. I might remind you of the Mitchell fight. Got dropped, got up and knocked the guy out in the same round. Not bad for a slappy windmill.

why don't you name some proper stoppages of his? i've seen all his fights and besides veit there are none. mitchell was an early stoppage.