Which Taylor-Hopkins fight...

[Fox McCloud]

does Hopkins have a better argument that he won?

I think two, and I know a lot of people agree, but I also know some people live and die saying that Hopkins deserved the first one.

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[Bhopreign]

Watching both live I thought he lost both, until I watched the first fight the whole fight in slow motion. Taylor's punches were so fast it looked like he was landing, but he would throw 5 and maybe land one, rewatching I scored the first fight 7-5 for Hop. I dont have the patience to watch the second in slow motion, but I know why Hop fought the second like he did the first.

[warp1432]

It's clearly the rematch. Hopkins actually got hit in the first fight and waited way to long to start fighting.

The rematch he negated everything Taylor did and he landed punches. Taylor only won rounds 2-6 in the rematch. I don't know how people score the second fight for Taylor.

[DiegoFuego]

the first you could have scored a draw. the second was a close but clear win for Taylor, 8 rounds to 4

[warp1432]

the first you could have scored a draw. the second was a close but clear win for Taylor, 8 rounds to 4

And Toney beat Tiberi.

How could Taylor win 7 rounds let alone 8?

[Bhopreign]

It's clearly the rematch. Hopkins actually got hit in the first fight and waited way to long to start fighting.

The rematch he negated everything Taylor did and he landed punches. Taylor only won rounds 2-6 in the rematch. I don't know how people score the second fight for Taylor.

Taylor wasnt landing those punches, you need to do what I did and watch in slow motion you would see. Hopkins didnt do anything in the rematch and fought like that because based on people's opinion of the first them thinking he won and how he protested the whole 12th round thing, he went into the rematch thinking he could fight the same way and they would give it to him, didnt happen.

[DiegoFuego]

And Toney beat Tiberi.

Tiberi didn't land any significant punches on Toney all night. If you had Tiberi beating Toney, you better have had Castillo beating Mayweather because it was the same thing.

Don't get all pissy because Taylor beat your boy twice. B-Hop didn't want to engage him so he played defense all night in both fights. If not for giving Taylor a concussion with a headbutt in round 7 or 8, he probably wouldn't have even come close to winning the first fight.

[oldgringo]

I thought the first fight was a draw. Hopkins won two of the first 6 (3 and 5 I think) and swept the last four.

You could make a better case for him winning the rematch.

[Silencers]

I think it was the rematch, he waited too long to start fighting in the first fight, he actually won some early rounds in the second and won most of the late rounds.

[Slotff]

I personally felt that Hopkins was jobbed in the first fight, but Taylor won the second fight quite clearly.