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    #21
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    Cut the weight divisions from 17 down to 10. Less divisions means tougher competition.

    Reinstitute same day weigh ins. Simply put, if a fighter can't safely make weight and fight the same day, he doesn't belong in that division.1 champion per division. No super champion, champion emeritus etc, etc, etc. Interim champion could be a possibility, but only if the recognized champion cannot defend because of injury.

    Other organizations champions would be ranked accordingly. How bogus is it now to look at any of the alphabet groups rankings and have them not even recognize a champion from another organization like he doesn't even exist? In my opinion that is no way to have an accurate account of the 10 best fighters in the world.

    Lifetime medical and pension funds based directly on what a fighters career earnings were while fighting for this organization.

    Random steriod testing for all top 10 fighters. To expensive to test everyone, so only test the elite. Penelties to be handled accordingly.

    I could go on and on but its to late to think reasonably and seriously. The things I've listed though I consider important and something that could help boxing in a realistic way.
    Fighters will still turn up at the weight they desire. However they'll be dehydrated and undernourished.

    With this rule - i hope you know you'll have to expect alot more life threatening accidents and deaths.

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    • JAB5239
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      #22
      Originally posted by mickeyb
      Fighters will still turn up at the weight they desire. However they'll be dehydrated and undernourished.
      And who's fault would that be? Certainly not boxing or the opponent who is legitimatly fighting at his correct weight. Sorry, but with day before weigh ins guys are being allowed to cheat by showing up at fight time 2 and 3 divisions heavier than what they're actually fighting at. If thats going to be the case, change the divisions. Example.....instead of having a jr welterweight division, call it the 140 thru 160 division and hand out a title for that. Now many of you would probably say that that wouldn't really be fair to the smaller guys in that division. Is it fair now when they have to give up a boat load of weight because the system is flawed?

      I would be more than willing to keep day before weigh ins if organizations put a 5 pound cap on weight gained before fight time. And if a fighter still can't safely make the weight then, I reiterate, he DOES'NT belong in that division.


      With this rule - i hope you know you'll have to expect alot more life threatening accidents and deaths.

      I don't want to see any fighter die. But I refuse to compromise my moral standards to let people cheat. This is exactly what you are doing by making excuses and allowing this type of thing to go on. If you can't safely make the weight you don't belong in that division. That is the bottom line.

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        #23
        Originally posted by JAB5239

        I don't want to see any fighter die. But I refuse to compromise my moral standards to let people cheat. This is exactly what you are doing by making excuses and allowing this type of thing to go on. If you can't safely make the weight you don't belong in that division. That is the bottom line.
        While I agree with you for the most part, a lot of the times, history has shown that the guy that blows up doesn't do as well as he might have. It shows a sluggish guy, often times.

        Realistically, if you found to even sized fighters, there should be no problem.

        You take two guys who should fight at 154, but if they both fight at 147, they both go through the exact same situation. Really, no cheating there.

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          #24
          I'm not a huge fan of MMA, but i really like the way Dana White Runs UFC, and i'd stack the card for PPV events like he does, and i'd schedule them, "Huge boxing event on this day... You WILL be fighting this dude"

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            #25
            1 champion per division,rotate from #1 contender to last.Any judge with any crazy scorecard "like the one in Berto-Collazo",will be banned for life and prosecuted,cut out any suspect promoters and have a process of illimination type tournament for any unknown prospect willing to show his grit.Make a boxing channel,cheaper than hbo or showtime for dedicated fans to keep track of all fights and thats just to begin!!!

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              #26
              I would run it from North Korea. I'd have the prison camps make cheap ass goods to sell around the world and pay boxers a ****load of money off the backs of the peasents.

              If the best didn't fight the best, they would be executed promptly or sent to a labor camp.

              Sure they'd try to escape, but then I would make them sparring partners for my new victims, I mean stars . failure to abide by those rules would also result in execution.


              Oh the fights I could have.

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                #27
                Originally posted by jreckoning
                I would run it from North Korea. I'd have the prison camps make cheap ass goods to sell around the world and pay boxers a ****load of money off the backs of the peasents.

                If the best didn't fight the best, they would be executed promptly or sent to a labor camp.

                Sure they'd try to escape, but then I would make them sparring partners for my new victims, I mean stars . failure to abide by those rules would also result in execution.


                Oh the fights I could have.
                Sick bastard. I love it!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ..Calderon...
                  While I agree with you for the most part, a lot of the times, history has shown that the guy that blows up doesn't do as well as he might have. It shows a sluggish guy, often times.
                  In some circumstances you're probably right. In others, one guy holds an unfair advantage. As long as there are weight classes the playing field should be even. It isn't when one fighter blows up 15, 20lbs before the fight.

                  Realistically, if you found to even sized fighters, there should be no problem.

                  You take two guys who should fight at 154, but if they both fight at 147, they both go through the exact same situation. Really, no cheating there.
                  If a guy can suck down to a lower weight class safely I have no problem with that as long as he isn't putting on and outweighing his opponent by a drastic amount come fight time. The easiest way to enforce this is same day weigh ins. JMO.

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                  • dans
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                    #29
                    First thing I would do is declare one unified santioning body that holds the "real" belt. I would allow local santioning bodies like NABF, however.

                    Next I would take boxing to network television. The sport used to thrive on nework TV and now you can't even see it.

                    Eliminate PPV's. Not all of them, but fights like JMM-Casamayor shouldn't cost $55.

                    Do away with a few divisions. I would eliminate some of the lower divisions like 105 or 108.

                    Invest in youth boxing. This is an American thing. There has to be some way to take some of the kids who play basketball and football and get them to lace up some gloves.

                    Change Olympic scoring system. Make them use the pro scoring system.

                    Same day weigh-ins. Guys like Margarito and Abraham would be forced to fight guys their own size. (I'm not knocking them, just giving an example)

                    Eliminate "super" "interim" "champion emeritus" and "champion in recess" - you're just a champion or you're not. Guys like Vitali and Chagaev don't deserve title shots when they come back just because they can't make it through a training camp.

                    Send Don King to jail, force DLH to retire, strip Valuev of his title, and force Holyfield to retire.

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                    • dans
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                      #30
                      Oh I would also provide these boxers with some sort of security after they retire. I feel like way too many greats have ended up in the gutter.

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