Anyone think Berto would be more effective at 140? Poll!

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  • Spirit
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    #81
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    I think Margarito, and Williams would cause serious size problems for him... but the likes of Cotto, Mosley, Clottey.... I think he can develop into competing with those fighters...

    I seriously think the slick southpaw style gave him a lot of problems, and he had to try to adapt... what IS important, is that he COULD adapt... now im not getting into who won or lost, but he did find a way to adapt, and start landing his punches.. and he also showed tremendous heart.

    Adaptability and heart are two things you cant exactly teach a fighter... the rest of the skills are very teachable.. and for a 24 year old athlete, I would have the utmost confidence that he will.
    I didn't see all that much adapting from Berto, I saw Collazo running out of steam and dropping his hands though, which is around the time Berto started winning rounds. I dont see how a seasoned olympian who just fought a slick southpaw in Steve Forbes still needs to get used to fighting southpaws. I agree with you on him having a tremendous heart though.

    There's another important thing you cant teach and thats having a chin, defense would help but I havent seen him develop in that department much and Ive been following Berto since he turned pro. I sure hope the Mayweathers find time for him though

    The thing is Berto is good fighter but just entered the division at the wrong time, otherwise I think he wouldve been able to beat a lot of natural welterweights. Its not just Tony and Williams, Clottey has tipped the unofficial scales at 160 as well and Cotto is a tremendous puncher at this weight.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #82
      Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
      Bertos on a prime Shane Mosleys level.
      um.... no he isnt

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      • Porter's Dad
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        #83
        I am 100% sure that Big Poppa posted an article a couple of months ago where Berto said he could make 140, and could possibly do it in the future. I remember it, because I thought that there's no ****ing way he could that, with his build.

        I still don't think he could do it.

        He's in an odd position though, in that he's clearly not ready for the elite WWs but has got the most prestigious belt. He'll have to face a Margarito, Cotto, Clottey etc at some point, but I'd go with a Collazo re-match and maybe Quintana too.

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        • IwatchBoxing
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          #84
          Originally posted by Eaner0919
          wow

          the level of intelligence in this thread is bad.
          Just wait, Paul Williams will defeat Winky Wright, Margarito would defeat Mosley, and Berto will be in the spotlight meny years from now hes only 25 and Mosley started his career at Lightweight, proving todays divsion is more dangerous and better than the previous when two noobs ruled the divsion De La Hoya and Trinidad.

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          • BrendanWoodside
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            #85
            Originally posted by Sin City
            Berto is 5'8'' 1/2 and stocky.. Miguel Cotto is only 5'7''.
            the average height for a welter is around 5'9''.

            I think he is fine where he is at.
            I think he just needs to work on some of his flaws and get better.
            that's bout it.

            He belongs at welter though.
            There is no way he is 5'8. Collazo was supposed to be 5'9 and he had 2 to 3 inches on Berto

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            • -Swizzy-
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              #86
              I don't think berto would even make that weight and if he did, he would really be drained. I think he is better at welter. his true weight might be 154.

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              • sunny31
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                #87
                Originally posted by BrendanWoodside
                There is no way he is 5'8. Collazo was supposed to be 5'9 and he had 2 to 3 inches on Berto
                He is at least 5'8 iv stood next to him, he is not that small. If he was 5'6 like you suggest he would be ricky hatton pac man height which he is not because i have also met hatton

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Sin City
                  Berto is 5'8'' 1/2 and stocky.. Miguel Cotto is only 5'7''.
                  the average height for a welter is around 5'9''.

                  I think he is fine where he is at.
                  I think he just needs to work on some of his flaws and get better.
                  that's bout it.

                  He belongs at welter though.
                  Berto may be listed at 5'9 even but as we've seen in the NBA this isn't always true. He didn't look any sort of 5'9 or 5'8.5.

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                  • sunny31
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by BrendanWoodside
                    There is no way he is 5'8. Collazo was supposed to be 5'9 and he had 2 to 3 inches on Berto
                    Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                    Berto may be listed at 5'9 even but as we've seen in the NBA this isn't always true. He didn't look any sort of 5'9 or 5'8.5.
                    Well im telling you he is no shorter than 5'8, no way! Do what you will with that info, but I met him at the front of the mgm after the hatton mayweather fight and spoke to him for like a minute and he is at least 5'8

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by sunny31
                      He is at least 5'8 iv stood next to him, he is not that small. If he was 5'6 like you suggest he would be ricky hatton pac man height which he is not because i have also met hatton
                      I guess we'll find out in about 2 years what this guy's got. No question a Mayweather would help this situation.

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