Arum Still Confident Pacquiao-Hatton Deal Will Be Closed

[Dave Rado]

Bob Arum had his best interest in heart when he negotiated 50-50 revenue split? I don't think so, he saw Manny Pacquiao's country of orgin when negotiating the deal not his talent. He thought that a Filipino boy would jump at the money being thrown to him.

Manny Pacquiao is pound for pound the best fighter in the world currently. He should have negotiated only that way. If you take country of origin out of the negotating, then Manny Pacquiao would have gotten 60-40 easily.

You are just being racist.

If Pac really thinks Arum had Hatton's interests at heart in the negotiations, why hasn't Manny sacked Arum???

And why did he wait nearly a month before reneging on the deal?

And if he really thinks Roach, who he says is like a father to him, has Hatton's interests at heart, why hasn't he sacked Roach?

[FatNJerseykid]

So why didn't he make it clear to Arum last December what deal he was willing to accept? Why did he make his own negotiator look ****** by letting him negotiate a legally binding deal, and then wait nearly a month before reneging on that deal? And why won't he return the calls of his own trainer, who he has claimed has been like a father to him?

Did you even see the fight? The post fight interview? Remember Bob Arum said that Manny Pacquiao was going to go on a long vacation. Only after the New Year will they discuss future fights, not December. You got the time frame wrong.

Also, Pacquiao said that it was his promoters job to find him the next oppenent. However, the fighter has the final say in accepting the fight. It is the fighters life, not the promoter.

[FatNJerseykid]

You are just being racist.

If Pac really thinks Arum had Hatton's interests at heart in the negotiations, why hasn't Manny sacked Arum???

And if he really thinks Roach, who he says is like a father to him, has Hatton's interests at heart, why hasn't he sacked Roach?

You don't understand how it is to come from a third world country and jump for the opportunity to work at a rich country like the U.K. When you get to the rich nation, you find out that you are being paid significantly less than the citizens. You work hard but don't get a raise or promotion while less qualified people do. If you understand that, then you wouldn't call me racist.

Boxing is a global sport, not a Filipino or British. Arum should have realized that and recogized that his fighter is the best in the world. 60-40 if this world was equal.

[Dave Rado]

You don't understand how it is to come from a third world country and jump for the opportunity to work at a rich country like the U.K. When you get to the rich nation, you find out that you are being paid significantly less than the citizens. You work hard but don't get a raise or promotion while less qualified people do. If you understand that, then you wouldn't call me racist.

Boxing is a global sport, not a Filipino or British. Arum should have realized that and recogized that his fighter is the best in the world. 60-40 if this world was equal.

According to that argument Pac should have refused to fight DLH for less than 60/40 in Pac's favour.

And in any case, I don't believe that Pac didn't know that Arum was going into negotiations with Hatton's team when he did.

[Kris Silver]

You don't understand how it is to come from a third world country and jump for the opportunity to work at a rich country like the U.K. When you get to the rich nation, you find out that you are being paid significantly less than the citizens. You work hard but don't get a raise or promotion while less qualified people do. If you understand that, then you wouldn't call me racist.

Boxing is a global sport, not a Filipino or British. Arum should have realized that and recogized that his fighter is the best in the world. 60-40 if this world was equal.

Whilst the racist card may have been odd, your signature and rants on this are a little ridiculous. Boxing is a fight between 2 people and what they bring financially and sport wise to the table, stop racking on about cultural, national topics that are mostly irrelevant to this.

Have you actually read anything on the matter as to the reasoning's for 50/50 being judged fair by most people? Because you seem to have not, and are just rambling about cultural issues and p4p #1 non stop. P4p whilst a factor and good thing, is a mythical ranking system. He was p4p #1 when he faced another big draw in ODL, and he got approx 32% of the pot, so how does he now suddenly get double?

Hatton is the #1 in the LWW division, has been for some years, and the biggest thing in it. He has earnt the Ring belt and has it on the line for Pac, everyones chasing him. Pac is lucky in his first fight in that division to be getting that guy.

Secondly, boxing is a business and about dividing up the pot based on what you bring. As a matter of fact, Hatton also brings some of the most money to any boxing match worldwide. That's just fact and can't be denied or over looked at your convenience whilst exaggerating other things in Pac's favour. Facing him is great for opponents because of that big coverage, prestige, belts and money it brings is like no other in the sport.

So based on that, Pac does no deserve 60-40. 50/50 is fair, Hatton had a verbal contract, could have sued, and is being flexible here.

[FatNJerseykid]

According to that argument Pac should have refused to fight DLH for less than 60/40 in Pac's favour.

And in any case, I don't believe that Pac didn't know that Arum was going into negotiations with Hatton's team when he did.

Your an idiot. Even I know that De La Hoya was the main "draw" in the fight. That is not the case when he fights Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao is the attraction.

[Dave Rado]

Whilst the racist card may have been odd

That was based on him saying or at least strongly implying that Arum had Hatton's interests at heart, when he was negotiating for Pac, because of Hatton being white. I think it's fair to call that a racist comment.

Have you actually read anything on the matter as to the reasoning's for 50/50 being judged fair by most people?

In addition, Pac is getting 100% of the Filipino TV rights pot, which although not PPV, is still worth several million to him; and he's also getting a far higher guarantee than Hatton, which during a worldwide recession is probably worth more than a cut of uncertain PPV sales. So it's not really 50/50 anyway, it's very favourable to Pac.

[Dave Rado]

Your an idiot. Even I know that De La Hoya was the main "draw" in the fight. That is not the case when he fights Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao is the attraction.

Pac was the #1 P4P fighter when he fought DLH, and DLH wasn't even in the top 20 P4P. Your whole argument has been based on who is the better P4P fighter, and nothing else, so my analogy was fair.

[Pullcounter]

Yes but my point is, that's why I've lost respect for him, because of his way of going about things, because he is willing to **** on people who have his best interests at heart. The GBP/Top Rank episode was bad, but I had hoped that it was a one-off, and that he would learn from it.

please... pac is known for this stuff. he even dared to ask dlh for more than 30%.

how could pac's reputation for pulling this stuff get any worse. he's known for this stuff. you're just out to make it seem worse than it is. stop crying.

[FatNJerseykid]

Whilst the racist card may have been odd, your signature and rants on this are a little ridiculous. Boxing is a fight between 2 people and what they bring financially and sport wise to the table, stop racking on about cultural, national topics that are mostly irrelevant to this.

Have you actually read anything on the matter as to the reasoning's for 50/50 being judged fair by most people? Because you seem to have not, and are just rambling about cultural issues and p4p #1 non stop. P4p whilst a factor and good thing, is a mythical ranking system. He was p4p #1 when he faced another big draw in ODL, and he got approx 32% of the pot, so how does he now suddenly get double?

Hatton is the #1 in the LWW division, has been for some years, and the biggest thing in it. He has earnt the Ring belt and has it on the line for Pac, everyones chasing him. Pac is lucky in his first fight in that division to be getting that guy.

Secondly, boxing is a business and about dividing up the pot based on what you bring. As a matter of fact, Hatton also brings some of the most money to any boxing match worldwide. That's just fact and can't be denied or over looked at your convenience whilst exaggerating other things in Pac's favour. Facing him is great for opponents because of that big coverage, prestige, belts and money it brings is like no other in the sport.

So based on that, Pac does no deserve 60-40. 50/50 is fair, Hatton had a verbal contract, could have sued, and is being flexible here.

Of course that is your arugment, when you are on the other side of the debate. Same one used by the rich and corporations to pay their workers low wages.

Who would have Hatton sued? Nobody, because the country of jurisdiction is in question. Also, he would not have sued Pacquiao because Manny has the final say in his life.