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Why do so many of you hate MMA??
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Originally posted by hitmenow View PostYes exactly my thoughts. Pride was the **** and had exciting fights. UFC is just two unconditioned bar brawlers trying to land a superman punch. Seriously though they ALL gas after about 3 minutes.
Which one of the UFC champions are fat barroom Brawlers.
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Originally posted by hitmenow View PostYes exactly my thoughts. Pride was the **** and had exciting fights. UFC is just two unconditioned bar brawlers trying to land a superman punch. Seriously though they ALL gas after about 3 minutes.
On top of this all Pride was notorious for putting on freak show matches. Giant Silva anyone?
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Originally posted by fathergll View PostWow what a joke post... the irony here is the guys that are gassing the most are the fighters who are coming over from Pride. Shogun, Coleman, Nog and Paulo Filho ring a bell?
On top of this all Pride was notorious for putting on freak show matches. Giant Silva anyone?
Anyway, Noguiera in his prime was the ****. Do you really think that the version of Frank Mir that defeated Nog would done the same against a Prime Nog?
Guess who the UFC rates as its #1 P4P fighter, it's a former Pride fighter, Anderson Silva(still undefeated in the UFC). Lyoto has done well so far, Rampage is still very much a threat and I can see him defeating Evans.
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MMA has bored me most times I have watched it, but i can almost always find interest in a boxing match. I don't doubt that mma fighters are great athletes but for the most part I can't get into it.
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I hate grappling simple as that, I can't watch it. So I don't watch MMA because a large majority end up on the floor and some of the lesser "strikers" look terrible when punching.
I enjoy watching Anderson Silva but other than that I can't see the appeal.
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Originally posted by fathergll View PostYeah part of it is Dana....but I think the rivalry is just a pretty natural thing because theres plenty of ******ity from both sides(Boxing and MMA)
On one end you have the countless boxing dopes who only consider using ones fists as the only effective means of offense in a MMA fight and therefore rip MMA fighters because of the lousy boxing. Hence the logic of a boxer can just step into a MMA fight and have great success because a boxer has better boxing. They refused to acknowledge every other aspect of MMA(Kicking, elbows, grappling, submissions...)
Other end is MMA fan boys who keep yelling boxing is dead when as infact its still very alive and plenty of money in it.
Some people in this thread have some very logical reasons why they find faults with MMA. Athletes are still on a whole inferior to boxing...its true but again we are talking about a brand new sport. Guys will be getting better. Brock Lesnar is a perfect example. Heres a case when you get a top level athlete at HW who is bigger than everyone. Basically Lesnar is exposing the weakness of the HW division. Huge athletic fighters are just not in MMA...not many in boxing now either. Historically the top HWs are all under 240lbs and here we get a guy coming in at 275-280 lbs
Hell I don't know if anyone caught inside MMA on HDNET a month ago but had Frank Shamrock on.....guess what Shamrock says he doesnt watch MMA at all and only watches boxing. He also went on to say the striking in MMA was terrible and should be much farther along then it is now. He basically said few fighters striking is on a good level(He mentioned Arlovski as one of those guys)
Great post. Frank Shamrock is probably my favorite MMA fighter, though the list is admittedly short. I remember getting the VHS of Shamrock vs. Ortiz, that was a damn good scrap. And Shamrock has always been on my list of best MMA strikers, he throws with the best.
Is he still fighting? I saw him on that godawful EliteXC thing last year I think, he beat the dogpiss out of Phil Baroni. Too bad his arm got broken against Cung though.
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I used to watch MMA when Pride was on. UFC is ****. Pride had some good fights and fighters.
Remember Bob Sapp vs Nogueria?... That fight was mad. Cant believe how Nogueria won!
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