Why do so many of you hate MMA??

[Sin City]

for me it's just boring.. the fights are over wayy too quick and I don't like the wrestling aspect of it. I think what killed it the most is when the UFC was just starting to blow up and in an effort to get attention they started saying boxing was dying. After that all of the fans of UFC where hating on Boxing and the way I see it now is that you can be a fan of one or the other but you can never really love both. How can you love a sport that has completely insulted the sport you love?

[Sin City]

No it doesn't. It looks like two men fighting, which boxing also resembles.



How so ? If that were the case then why is it completely legal to kick someone, or take them down ? Awful point here, MMA is the whole spectrum, and basically allows anything outside of eye gouging, biting, hair pulling, and hitting in the groin.


Complete in what sense ? MMA in itself is not a style of fighting. Boxing is.

Like I said, MMA is the test to see who's approach in a fight is most effective. This could be a mix of several different styles. Your statement makes the assumption that MMA is itself one style, which is completely baseless.


LOL, what 'therapy' is this you speak of ?

As far as competitiveness as a sport, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that either. Its obvious you know little about the sport, not that it matters anyways.





Goes both ways though.

As a fan of both, there are ignorant fans of each sport, and its kind of disappointing to see that people feel as if these two sports are competing for one spot.

In reality, both sports can and will coexist, and the success of one will only push the other to improve. So for those, like myself, who love both sports.

Its a win-win.


For the most part though, in real life, people aren't this bullheaded and ignorant.

The gym I train at has both professional boxers as well as professional MMA fighters, and some that are both. Everyone knows that each sport respectively is physically demanding, just in different ways.

MMA is ONE style of fighting.. MMA is designed to benefit one kind of fighter.
If MMA was "real" fighting then there would be NO rules, you wouldn't start the fight from a corner and there would be no rounds. I'm sorry but MMA is just another fighting sport like Boxing.

[nystate0fm1nd]

real mens fight with their hands.

none of that grappling excuse to touch another man and laying on the floor.

anybody could kick anybody
anybody could choke anybody.


those guys barely have stamina.

I somewhat agree with this, of course I think there's a little more to it than simply saying that, but on the whole I would definitely say boxers are better conditioned than guys who fight in MMA- **** a lot of those guys look FAT!

I think boxing is also a lot more technical than MMA is as well. I feel like MMA fights are just people brutally beating the **** out of each other. It's that instant-gratification that people like nowadays, they don't care anything for the technical skills these sports may require, they just want to see blood. That is part of the reason why we see a lot more people liking UFC nowadays.

Having done both (not competitively, however) I found boxing to be a lot more of a workout and much more fun. But that's just me.
Still, I will definitely watch the big MMA/UFC fights, but not over a good boxing match.

I also find it funny that when fighters in the UFC use utilize good boxing technique, I see them knock dudes out.
Tell Chuck Liddell next time if he doesn't want to get ktfo he shouldn't have his left hand down in Florida.

[Pullcounter]

Goes both ways though.

As a fan of both, there are ignorant fans of each sport, and its kind of disappointing to see that people feel as if these two sports are competing for one spot.

In reality, both sports can and will coexist, and the success of one will only push the other to improve. So for those, like myself, who love both sports.

Its a win-win.


For the most part though, in real life, people aren't this bullheaded and ignorant.

The gym I train at has both professional boxers as well as professional MMA fighters, and some that are both. Everyone knows that each sport respectively is physically demanding, just in different ways.

I dont think it goes both ways. MMA has to bash boxing to make itself more viable. the only reason why boxing bashes back is out of retaliation.

here's an food franchise analogy. mcdonalds never advertises itself as better than burger king because it is more popular. mcdonalds never mentions burger king once in its advertisements. burger king on the other hand is always mentioning mcdonalds in its advertisements and always saying that its better.

boxing = mcdonalds, mma = burger king

[MOREBASS]

MMA is ONE style of fighting.. MMA is designed to benefit one kind of fighter.

Wrong. Mixed Martial Arts.


That's what MMA stands for if you didn't already know. The name in itself proves your assumption of MMA being one style of fighting wrong.

It is a mixture of all different types of martial arts. Its getting to the point now where people are training in the styles which have proven most effective, but MMA as a whole isn't a style of fighting in itself. Its a sport.

Which fighter is MMA 'designed' to benefit ?

That statement makes no sense whatsoever.

There are fighters from all different backgrounds in MMA. There is no set of rules or regulations that states you have to know or excel at any particular form of fighting.

Fighters train with the styles that have been proven in the cage/ring.

If MMA was "real" fighting then there would be NO rules, you wouldn't start the fight from a corner and there would be no rounds. I'm sorry but MMA is just another fighting sport like Boxing

Who is arguing this ?

Not me. Its as close to real fighting as a real state commissioned board would approve though, there is no arguing that.

But I am glad to see you acknowledge MMA as a sport, alongside boxing.

I somewhat agree with this, of course I think there's a little more to it than simply saying that, but on the whole I would definitely say boxers are better conditioned than guys who fight in MMA- **** a lot of those guys look FAT!

Yes, because fighters like James Toney and Chris Arreola are the epitome of fitness !

Both sports are physically demanding, and it actually would depend on the person, on a case to case basis in determining which is more physically demanding.

I think boxing is also a lot more technical than MMA is as well. I feel like MMA fights are just people brutally beating the **** out of each other. It's that instant-gratification that people like nowadays, they don't care anything for the technical skills these sports may require, they just want to see blood.

This statement proves your ignorance on the sport. Have you seen an MMA fight within the past 5 years ? Or are you basing this statement on the very early, no holds barred version of the UFC ?

That is part of the reason why we see a lot more people liking UFC nowadays.

A lot more people are drawn to the UFC because they are entertained by the fights. You are making the assumption that MMA fans are these classless idiots who only watch to see some gladiator type affairs with two men fighting until the death.

Having done both (not competitively, however) I found boxing to be a lot more of a workout and much more fun. But that's just me.
Still, I will definitely watch the big MMA/UFC fights, but not over a good boxing match.

I also find it funny that when fighters in the UFC use utilize good boxing technique, I see them knock dudes out.
Tell Chuck Liddell next time if he doesn't want to get ktfo he shouldn't have his left hand down in Florida.

Again, I do not understand why some of you expect to see MMA fighters use the same boxing techniques a boxer would use in a boxing match. That makes no sense whatsoever. A boxer can utilize those techniques because they are sport specific...meaning, he doesn't have to worry about his guy throwing a kick or shooting in for a takedown. Plus, MMA fighters gloves aren't a whole lot bigger than their fists, so this changes the whole dynamic of punching, and blocking punches.

I dont think it goes both ways. MMA has to bash boxing to make itself more viable. the only reason why boxing bashes back is out of retaliation.

Where have you seen this besides internet message boards ?

MMA isn't a walking, talking entity. I assume you are referring to its fans. MMA fans don't have to do anything except support the sport to make it viable. It isn't fans' opinion or dislike of boxing that make the sport viable, its the money they're willing to put into it and its growth.

Boxing's place in sports and entertainment is secure, I don't personally know any MMA fan who doesn't acknowledge this. But you can't honestly sit there with a straight face and say that the way boxing is being run is beneficial for the sport. C'mon man.

here's an food franchise analogy. mcdonalds never advertises itself as better than burger king because it is more popular. mcdonalds never mentions burger king once in its advertisements. burger king on the other hand is always mentioning mcdonalds in its advertisements and always saying that its better.

boxing = mcdonalds, mma = burger king

Here is where you are wrong.

Boxing and MMA aren't in competition for the same fan base.

The demographic that boxing has traditionally catered to is middle aged males. This has held true, and boxing's failure to appeal to a younger generation is a big reason why the popularity of MMA is growing so rapidly.

MMA caters to the 18-35 year old male crowd, a demographic that boxing has never really appealed to on a grand scale.

Besides, if you are comparing boxing to McDonald's and MMA to Burger King, I just want to let you know that the UFC has just broken the record for highest PPV revenue in a single year.

This isn't exactly all bad news for boxing though, just look at the cards coming up this year in 2009. Notice something that's different from before ?

Yes.

They are starting to stack their cards with more quality fights !

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I don't like MMA and it has nothing to do with any of those reasons. I don't hate it but I just don't like it, its not my cup of tea. I only like boxing, I don't like kickboxing or any other kind of fighting style.

[Sin City]

Wrong. Mixed Martial Arts.


That's what MMA stands for if you didn't already know. The name in itself proves your assumption of MMA being one style of fighting wrong.

It is a mixture of all different types of martial arts. Its getting to the point now where people are training in the styles which have proven most effective, but MMA as a whole isn't a style of fighting in itself. Its a sport.

Which fighter is MMA 'designed' to benefit ?

That statement makes no sense whatsoever.

There are fighters from all different backgrounds in MMA. There is no set of rules or regulations that states you have to know or excel at any particular form of fighting.

Fighters train with the styles that have been proven in the cage/ring.




Who is arguing this ?

Not me. Its as close to real fighting as a real state commissioned board would approve though, there is no arguing that.

But I am glad to see you acknowledge MMA as a sport, alongside boxing.



Yes, because fighters like James Toney and Chris Arreola are the epitome of fitness !

Both sports are physically demanding, and it actually would depend on the person, on a case to case basis in determining which is more physically demanding.


This statement proves your ignorance on the sport. Have you seen an MMA fight within the past 5 years ? Or are you basing this statement on the very early, no holds barred version of the UFC ?


A lot more people are drawn to the UFC because they are entertained by the fights. You are making the assumption that MMA fans are these classless idiots who only watch to see some gladiator type affairs with two men fighting until the death.


Again, I do not understand why some of you expect to see MMA fighters use the same boxing techniques a boxer would use in a boxing match. That makes no sense whatsoever. A boxer can utilize those techniques because they are sport specific...meaning, he doesn't have to worry about his guy throwing a kick or shooting in for a takedown. Plus, MMA fighters gloves aren't a whole lot bigger than their fists, so this changes the whole dynamic of punching, and blocking punches.



Where have you seen this besides internet message boards ?

MMA isn't a walking, talking entity. I assume you are referring to its fans. MMA fans don't have to do anything except support the sport to make it viable. It isn't fans' opinion or dislike of boxing that make the sport viable, its the money they're willing to put into it and its growth.

Boxing's place in sports and entertainment is secure, I don't personally know any MMA fan who doesn't acknowledge this. But you can't honestly sit there with a straight face and say that the way boxing is being run is beneficial for the sport. C'mon man.




Here is where you are wrong.

Boxing and MMA aren't in competition for the same fan base.

The demographic that boxing has traditionally catered to is middle aged males. This has held true, and boxing's failure to appeal to a younger generation is a big reason why the popularity of MMA is growing so rapidly.

MMA caters to the 18-35 year old male crowd, a demographic that boxing has never really appealed to on a grand scale.

Besides, if you are comparing boxing to McDonald's and MMA to Burger King, I just want to let you know that the UFC has just broken the record for highest PPV revenue in a single year.

This isn't exactly all bad news for boxing though, just look at the cards coming up this year in 2009. Notice something that's different from before ?

Yes.

They are starting to stack their cards with more quality fights !

you can call a dog a cat.. it doesn't mean it's a cat.
at the end of the day you can call it MMA but it is one kind of brand of fighting.

[MOREBASS]

you can call a dog a cat.. it doesn't mean it's a cat.
at the end of the day you can call it MMA but it is one kind of brand of fighting.

Its not any type of fighting, its a sport. What is so difficult to understand about that.

MMA is the sport of Mixed Martial Arts.

Its not a style of fighting.

It is one type of sport however, if that's what you are trying to say.

[NAPO]

I dont think it goes both ways. MMA has to bash boxing to make itself more viable. the only reason why boxing bashes back is out of retaliation.

here's an food franchise analogy. mcdonalds never advertises itself as better than burger king because it is more popular. mcdonalds never mentions burger king once in its advertisements. burger king on the other hand is always mentioning mcdonalds in its advertisements and always saying that its better.

boxing = mcdonalds, mma = burger king

WTF? burger king > mcFATnald.

[ИATAS]

I used to like it back in the day when you'd have like a 500 pounds sumo vs a 160 pound kick boxer and crazy **** like that. It was truly a "mixed martial arts."

Now everyone trains to be the same type of fighter - ok striking skills with good ground work, etc.

It just lost its luster to me and most of the time i find the fights too boring or too quick.

just my opinion.