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  • Bushbaby
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    #31
    Arum has Cotto and Margarito,at ww.He makes more money with those 2 guys so he is gonna leave Clottey in the dark.Clottey is not overratted,he beats Cotto or Margarito,the only ww that would beat him is Williams!!The man needs a new promoter,who's got his back!!

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    • adrsan84
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      #32
      Originally posted by cruzan mario
      Arum has Cotto and Margarito,at ww.He makes more money with those 2 guys so he is gonna leave Clottey in the dark.Clottey is not overratted,he beats Cotto or Margarito,the only ww that would beat him is Williams!!The man needs a new promoter,who's got his back!!
      If Clottey is such a ****en bad ass how come he couldn't get over his swollen hands and throw a punch in the second half of his fight with Tony. He's not as bad is everyone is making him out to be. He has a very well made style, great defense and is strong as hell, but he has a ****ty workrate and fades late in fight. I wish I could say he would beat Paul Williams because I like Clottey more, but William's workrate would pound him all night while he never came out of his shell.

      Also fighting a Margarito that isn't coming of off a nine month layoff, with an ankle injury in training camp, and a wrist injury that actually required medical attention not just swollen, would be a different story. The guy is solid all around, but come on. Give me a call when he starts finishing strong and not holding and crawling to the finish line against Feliz Flores and Shamone Alvarez. This guy is underrated by most, but overrated here on boxingscene. His best win is Zab, and his second best is a lost to Margarito where he won a few of the early rounds but then he got an ouchy and couldn't throw any more punches.

      I won't deny he is getting the short end of the stick, but when he get's those big fights he will come up short, just wait and see.

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      • krispy kreme
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        #33
        Originally posted by adrsan84
        If Clottey is such a ****en bad ass how come he couldn't get over his swollen hands and throw a punch in the second half of his fight with Tony. He's not as bad is everyone is making him out to be. He has a very well made style, great defense and is strong as hell, but he has a ****ty workrate and fades late in fight. I wish I could say he would beat Paul Williams because I like Clottey more, but William's workrate would pound him all night while he never came out of his shell.

        Also fighting a Margarito that isn't coming of off a nine month layoff, with an ankle injury in training camp, and a wrist injury that actually required medical attention not just swollen, would be a different story. The guy is solid all around, but come on. Give me a call when he starts finishing strong and not holding and crawling to the finish line against Feliz Flores and Shamone Alvarez. This guy is underrated by most, but overrated here on boxingscene. His best win is Zab, and his second best is a lost to Margarito where he won a few of the early rounds but then he got an ouchy and couldn't throw any more punches.

        I won't deny he is getting the short end of the stick, but when he get's those big fights he will come up short, just wait and see.
        I do see where your coming from. His career could be similar to Quartey. I think his stamina was the main problem in the Margarito fight.

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          #34
          Originally posted by J. HITTER
          I do see where your coming from. His career could be similar to Quartey. I think his stamina was the main problem in the Margarito fight.
          I'm not a hater either, I like Joshua. I just think he can beat most small welters who don't have an overwhelming workrate and will allow him to dictate the tempo and give him his space. Margarito and Williams are not that. A fight with Cotto would be very interesting because Cotto is a very skilled fighter in his own right, and he has a manageable pace for Clottey, but at 147 I think Cotto is a beast and would favor him slightly.

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          • egreezy
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            #35
            The funny thing is how people say how deep the WW division is and Clottey has more lucrative fights @154 available. @ WW only Quintana is available and thats if he hasn't definately moved up. @ 154 there is Santos, Mora, Forrest, Dzinziruk, Phillips, Alcine, Foreman, Bunema. Or he can fight a mandatory or wait for Berto/Collazo winner.

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            • savorduhflavor
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              #36
              Clottey gets WAYY too much credit for being competitive with Margarito. He was competitive with Tony, and beat......who? A totally shot Judah? A blown up, totally shot Chico? I do think he's very good, but people really get carried away with him.

              He'd lose to Tony again, he just can't sustain that pace.

              He's TAILOR made for Cotto. Cotto only has trouble with guys that throw uppercuts, and have a high workrate. Clottey fights at a more measured pace than Cotto, that would allow Cotto to dictate the pace of the fight. Clottey would get picked apart by Cotto to a fairly easy decision.

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              • El Dominicano
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                #37
                Clottey is an almost complete fighter but his workrate is lacking. The only fighter I see beating Clottey is Paul but based on Paul's workrate/ reach and height

                Clottey is VERY underated and its sad how he can't get a fight

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                • Mr. Ryan
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Southpaw16bf
                  Yeah Clottey dosen't seem to be getting much luke at the minute, and Arum dosen't really seem interested in marketing him to the public eye, sad really as Clottey is a very good/underatted fighter who just isn't getting the chances.

                  He's a world champion, his only true loss coming at the hands of the #1 Welterweight Antonio Margarito , in which i had him winning the first 4 rounds before his hand broke.And he holds wins over good name fighters etc Judah, Corrales.But yet tv networks still reject him.Not right.
                  I don't think Clottey is doing his part, either. I'm from up here and I've never seen him ringside at the fights. It's not like he can't get tickets.

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                  • krispy kreme
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by savorduhfalvor
                    Clottey gets WAYY too much credit for being competitive with Margarito. He was competitive with Tony, and beat......who? A totally shot Judah? A blown up, totally shot Chico? I do think he's very good, but people really get carried away with him.

                    He'd lose to Tony again, he just can't sustain that pace.

                    He's TAILOR made for Cotto. Cotto only has trouble with guys that throw uppercuts, and have a high workrate. Clottey fights at a more measured pace than Cotto, that would allow Cotto to dictate the pace of the fight. Clottey would get picked apart by Cotto to a fairly easy decision.
                    Whoa, now I doubt it would be an easy decision. I think Cotto has the tools to win, as he does with any fighter in the division, but saying he will gain an easy decision is going overboard. Clottey does apply enough pressure, his speed and overall strength would give Cotto a tough fight. He is also a ring technician as is Cotto, so he is not a guy Cotto can easily pick apart.

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                    • egreezy
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Sensational!
                      I don't think Clottey is doing his part, either. I'm from up here and I've never seen him ringside at the fights. It's not like he can't get tickets.
                      He was at Cunningham-Adamek, but most likely because his guy Agbeko was on undercard

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