Manny Pacquiao Reportedly Still Wants 60-40 For Hatton

[ferocity]

Lol, at the pac nutt huggers blaming it on the lawyers. Just like it was Delahoyas lawyers who wanted the bigger share in the pac fight but everybody was blaming delahoya.

Pac is just being greedy, simple as that. He is a college guy remember, lmfao, he ain't as dumb as you pac nutthuggers belive.

Ricky Hatton is the draw, every one of his fights prove it. Hatton should just fight someone else, Greedy Pacquiao sounds like a hooker asking for more money from her john.

[ShoguNinja]

The point is that Arum says or at least has very strongly implied that Pac agreed to the 50/50 deal. And if Pac wanted 60/40 he should have said so at the outset. Waiting until a deal has been negotiated and only then saying he wants 60/40 is playing mind games, and Hatton is not being spoilt for refusing to be messed about by underhand tactics like that.

Pac-Mayweather would be a bigger fight if Pac beats Hatton first, so it would be ****** for him to walk away from this fight in the hope of fighting Mayweather, who he can fight anyway, as long as he beats Hatton.

According to a news article that i have read. Pac was not present on that negotiations. He is represented by his Attorney Jeng Gacal with Arum and Freddie. The purpose of that negotiations is to negotiate a deal by giving offers and counter offers before it would be presented to Manny. Arum jump the gun, by agreeing to the deal with Hatton and GBP which is 50-50 profit split without consulting Pacquiao thats why Manny is furious.

[th4l3pr3ch4un]

I understand that alot of posters on here think that PACMAN "earned" his way to make this type of demand...
But this is boxing, remember?
Hatton deserves 50/50 plain and simple, Pacman will not make half of what he will make with 50/50 against hatton against any other fight out there right now, period.
Hatton has arguably the biggest following in the sport right now, and will EASILY sell a million in the UK alone, and he doesnt deserve 50/50???

[mistermartin]

Right now All ur talking is hypotheticals...Ricky has done it. & last time I checked Ring MAg had him # 10 on the p4p list...

[Feint]

Hatton deserves 50/50 plain and simple, Pacman will not make half of what he will make with 50/50 against hatton against any other fight out there right now, period.

Exactly...

Pac needs to look at the big picture because this is by far the most financially advantageous fight for him out there, even with a 50/50 split. (This is assuming of course that Mayweather stays retired.)

[Dave Rado]

According to a news article that i have read. Pac was not present on that negotiations. He is represented by his Attorney Jeng Gacal with Arum and Freddie. The purpose of that negotiations is to negotiate a deal by giving offers and counter offers before it would be presented to Manny. Arum jump the gun, by agreeing to the deal with Hatton and GBP which is 50-50 profit split without consulting Pacquiao thats why Manny is furious.

Well Arum said "we'll see if we can keep it together, but the split is supposed to be 50-50. We've all agreed to it. Now, people are whispering in Pacquiao's ear."
That implies to me that Pac agreed to it (presumably on the phone).

But even if Arum is lying about that, the negotiators should always know in advance what the bottom line demand of their client is. Why didn't Pac tell Arum what he would accept before sending him to negotiate a deal on his behalf? And Arum told Hatton's negotiators that he was negotiating with full authorisation from Pacquiao to reach a deal, which means that legally the agreement they negotiated is binding - a verbal agreement is as legally binding as a written one, provided you can prove it was made. So either Arum has screwed up big time, or Pac is playing games. Either way you can't blame Hatton's team for refusing to budge.

[Dave Rado]

Exactly...

Pac needs to look at the big picture because this is by far the most financially advantageous fight for him out there, even with a 50/50 split. (This is assuming of course that Mayweather stays retired.)

It's also the fight everyone wants to see. For the sake of boxing Pac should back down, and then if he thinks Arum screwed up, he should sack Arum afterwards.

[Pinuno]

See here. The HBO figures definitely did not include UK sales. Sky estimates UK PPV sales at between 1.2 million and 1.4 million (exact figures to be announced later this month). You're right that there's no easy way to compare them with US sales though, given the price discrepancy.

hmmm.... Then we are in agreement that it is not easy to compare them with PPV's. Then the intangibles will set in, right? Why it will sell and people want to see it. Why there are many who make fuss out of it. I guess, it's not because of Hatton. If he is, he can continue fighting in his own backyard and have the brits enjoy him at wembly. There's more to it than that. It is not that simple as it seems to be, right?

[BennyST]

I'm not sure about that. I've been imagining Buffer's voice doing the intros. Moneyyyyyyyyyyyyy Manny Paaaaacquiaooo sounds better to me than Manny Moneyyy Pacquiaoooo.

Or Peso Pacquiao.

Both of those are hilarious!

I can just imagine the second one as well. "Now introducing, The Mexicutioner! Pesoooooo Paaaaaaaaaaacquiaoooooo!"

[Dave Rado]

hmmm.... Then we are in agreement that it is not easy to compare them with PPV's. Then the intangibles will set in, right? Why it will sell and people want to see it. Why there are many who make fuss out of it. I guess, it's not because of Hatton. If he is, he can continue fighting in his own backyard and have the brits enjoy him at wembly. There's more to it than that. It is not that simple as it seems to be, right?

The UK PPVs are PPVs. I just said it isn't an easy calculation to compare UK PPVs with US PPVs (although it's possible). I'm not sure what you mean by intangibles. UK PPVs are just as tangible as US ones, they just cost less. I agree that it means you can't just add the UK PPVs and US PPVs together and pretend that is worth as much as that number of US PPVs would be worth - is that what you meant? If so, I agree, but the fact remains that even at UK prices, up to 1.4 million UK PPV buys for Mayweather-Hatton is still huge, and still shows that Hatton brings more money to the table than Pacquiao does, especially as Hatton also sold just under 1 million UK PPVs against Malignaggi, who isn't really a marque fighter.