Bernard Hopkins is Overrated....

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  • TheGreatA
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    #221
    Originally posted by circleinsidebox

    yet bernard was called a philly pressure style fighter
    for about 10 years by someone in this thread
    I said it and that's exactly what he was during his early years. You can listen to Hopkins' own interviews if you don't believe me or your eyes (I've shown you the videos) and he will talk about how he evolved as a boxer over the years.







    These fights are from around the time Hopkins fought Roy Jones in 1993.


    Here's Hopkins against Trinidad in 2001.

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      #222
      Originally posted by circleinsidebox
      let me re introduce my theory....
      PRIME BERNARD VS PRIME JOE = WINNER JOE
      PRIME ROY VS PRIME JOE = WINNER ROY
      this has to make sense to you......
      Prime Bernard beats Prime Joe in my mind and I doubt that can be swayed unless it had taken place.

      And what fighters do you consider to be legends? I'm guessing you'd put legend in the same breath as icon.

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        #223
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        I said it and that's exactly what he was during his early years. You can listen to Hopkins' own interviews if you don't believe me or your eyes (I've shown you the videos) and he will talk about how he evolved as a boxer over the years.







        These fights are from around the time Hopkins fought Roy Jones in 1993.


        Here's Hopkins against Trinidad in 2001.
        thats kool, that proves my point even more
        he has had a great last 6-7 years
        we judge fighters on entire careers
        not the tail end....
        im not going to comment on his opposition
        at middleweight during his reign, it's not his fault
        but whatever
        statistics play a major role in creating delusion amongst fans

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          #224
          Originally posted by circleinsidebox
          let me re introduce my theory....
          PRIME BERNARD VS PRIME JOE = WINNER JOE
          PRIME ROY VS PRIME JOE = WINNER ROY
          this has to make sense to you......
          Roy maybe

          Calzaghe no chance!

          Calazghe is too easy to hit and is tailor made for a Hopkins who can stustain his workrate. You saw what happened when a 40+ year old met him.

          Hopkins would beat Calzaghe over 12 decisively in his prime. He would land the harder cleaner shots and Calzaghe would eat everyone of them.

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            #225
            Originally posted by circleinsidebox
            thats kool, that proves my point even more
            he has had a great last 6-7 years
            we judge fighters on entire careers
            not the tail end....
            im not going to comment on his opposition
            at middleweight during his reign, it's not his fault
            but whatever
            statistics play a major role in creating delusion amongst fans
            I have no idea what you're talking about.

            This has got to be a joke thread.

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              #226
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              I have no idea what you're talking about.

              This has got to be a joke thread.

              it's ok
              intellect is hard to follow
              for those that lack

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                #227
                Originally posted by The_Executioner
                Prime Bernard beats Prime Joe in my mind and I doubt that can be swayed unless it had taken place.

                And what fighters do you consider to be legends? I'm guessing you'd put legend in the same breath as icon.
                holyfield is a legend

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                  Roy maybe

                  Calzaghe no chance!

                  Calazghe is too easy to hit and is tailor made for a Hopkins who can stustain his workrate. You saw what happened when a 40+ year old met him.

                  Hopkins would beat Calzaghe over 12 decisively in his prime. He would land the harder cleaner shots and Calzaghe would eat everyone of them.
                  calzaghe would have been to fast
                  nard in his PHYSICAL prime couldn't hit RJ (not in his PHYSICAL PRIME)

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by circleinsidebox
                    calzaghe would have been to fast
                    nard in his PHYSICAL prime couldn't hit RJ (not in his PHYSICAL PRIME)
                    Calzaghe wasn't to fast when Hopkins was 40+, that's why he couldn't hit him with a clean punch in the whole fight and spent most of his time slapping thin air.

                    good timing beats speed thats why Montell Griffin was able to make Roy look so bad he broke up his rhythm and countered effectively.

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                    • TheGreatA
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                      #230
                      it's ok
                      intellect is hard to follow
                      for those that lack
                      I've answered your questions and you've come back with nothing. It's getting boring now and I'm starting to think that you've made this thread just to get some points.

                      Originally posted by circleinsidebox
                      calzaghe would have been to fast
                      nard in his PHYSICAL prime couldn't hit RJ (not in his PHYSICAL PRIME)


                      A lot of fighters couldn't beat Roy Jones. But Hopkins is the only one who gave him a fight in Roy's prime.

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