Bernard Hopkins is Overrated....

[Low Blow Armo]

I agree. Not only is he over rated, he is very unwatchable. Watching a Hopkins fight is like watching paint dry.

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No according to anyone with common sense those wins do not matter as much as a win over PRIME Roy Jones.

Hopkins was clearly not the same fighter against Roy Jones in 1993 as he was later on in 2001. Neither was Jones against Johnson, Tarver and Calzaghe.

ok, but you will never give any credit with that crazy thinking...
and like i said...at the end of the day all you will have is
the name and a "W" or "L" next to it...

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I agree. Not only is he over rated, he is very unwatchable. Watching a Hopkins fight is like watching paint dry.

lol i wouldn't go that for...he was highly
entertaining against little tito and pavlik and tarver

[TheGreatA]

ok, but you will never give any credit with that crazy thinking...
and like i said...at the end of the day all you will have is
the name and a "W" or "L" next to it...

I think you'll find out that your logic of not rating greatness based on resumes but rather on who your favorites boxers to watch are is not going to be given much credit either.

Mike Tyson was not better than Bernard Hopkins in any way. Maybe for a minute and a half, which is how long his prime lasted. Hopkins has been going strong for more than 20 years.

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I think you'll find out that your logic of not rating greatness based on resumes but rather on what your favorites boxers to watch are is not going to be given much credit either.

Mike Tyson was not better than Bernard Hopkins in any way. Maybe for a minute and a half, which is how long his prime lasted. Hopkins has been going strong for 20 years.

tyson beat a couple tall fighters with great jabs (that's what everyone agrees was his toughest challenge)

hopkins was unable to adapt against fighters with speed and reflexes (he always lost to them, i don't care how close it was, HE LOST)

and for the record, bernard hopkins IS one of my favorite fighters

[Ishy Aytan]

i would describe evander holyfield as a legend
also lennox lewis
mike tyson
manny pacquiao is on his way....

Okay, based upon your reasons to why Hopkins is not a legend, i will give you the same reasons why Tyson, Lewis, Hollyfield and Pacquiao are not legends. This is based on what you said about Hopkins.

1) Tyson cannot fight guys that are technically superior than him hence why he lost to Lewis and Hollyfield. If he cant win against all different types of fighters he is not a legend.

2) Lewis was getting ****ed by the bigger stronger Vitali before the fight was stopped on cuts. He cant fight well against the bigger fighters. He is not a legend.

3) Hollyfield just lost to the slowest heavyweight ever in boxing history. He is not a legend.

4) Pacquiao fails against clever orthodox boxers. He was outclassed by Morrales and got a boxing lesson from Marquez. He cannot fight well against all fighters. He is not a legend.

You justified Hopkins not being a legend as he cant fight well against fast guys with reflexes. Ive used your own criteria to justify why these guys are not legends.

[TheGreatA]

tyson beat a couple tall fighters with great jabs (that's what everyone agrees was his toughest challenge)

hopkins was unable to adapt against fighters with speed and reflexes (he always lost to them, i don't care how close it was, HE LOST)

and for the record, bernard hopkins IS one of my favorite fighters

I disagree.

Journeymen were Tyson's toughest challenge, he couldn't adapt to beat Buster Douglas, Kevin McBride and Danny Williams. Not only did he lose to them but he was knocked out.

[Ryn0]

roy beat bernard
so i guess
roy>bernard
sorry but its true

this isnt the point of my thread
but im just exposing your nu****** logic

It's not true, it's the opposite in that case

Roy>Hopkins
Hopkins>Tarver
Tarver>Roy

Triangle theories don't work

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I disagree.

Journeymen were Tyson's toughest challenge, he couldn't adapt to beating Buster Douglas, Kevin McBride and Danny Williams.

journeymen?? lol so ur taking away credit because
he couldn't beat journeymen, wow this is a new one...
ok....he beat peter mcneely and frank bruno, golota, ruddock, stewart, tillman
all JOURNEYMEN

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It's not true, it's the opposite in that case

Roy>Hopkins
Hopkins>Tarver
Tarver>Roy

Triangle theories don't work

i only provided the triangular theory
as satire for a previous post
please read thoroughly before responding
thanks