you are entitled to your opinion but i dont see anyone outhere right now better than him p4p. and his resume speaks for itself, a flyweight moving to welterweight. 5 weight champ henry armstrong accomplishment. thats a impressive resume, and thats what i mean about mayweather fans when you start comparing pac to pavlik.
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He beat a Oscar who hadn't seen 147 since damn near the 90's. let's be realistic, he a good fighter but losing to a out of his prime Morales and then beating him after his wars with Barrera and schooling by raheem. then he beat Barrera who was worn down, but still very game. and then he gets a draw with JMM after KOing 3 times in the 1st rd and never really convincingly beating him. this is our best fighter....what pure boxers have he faced, what slick fighters have he faced, what strong fighters have he faced. hatton is going his first fight not fighting a mexican style in i don't now when. This is our best fighter...no i think not. But he a good fighter though, I think he need to do some more before I give him title of king of the ring.Comment
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Nowhere near the fame that pacquiao has. Floyd is an afterthought. Especially since his retirement hasn't really made anyone lose sleep. There is only one person that he has left to fight and that is Pac.Comment
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i wasn't talking about accomplishments in different weight classes. i was talking about Hype. I can subjectively see what he is and that is a good fighter, but the best i don't think so.you are entitled to your opinion but i dont see anyone outhere right now better than him p4p. and his resume speaks for itself, a flyweight moving to welterweight. 5 weight champ henry armstrong accomplishment. thats a impressive resume, and thats what i mean about mayweather fans when you start comparing pac to pavlik.Comment
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oSCAR/Pacman = 1.25 -1.5M PPPV
Oscar/Mayweather = 2.1M PPV
Oscar is in both fights, but 1 did better popularity wise. Based on that i think Floyd a lil more popular. Also How many of Pacman's fights have even had more than 400,000 PPV viewerships besides Oscar. i think Floyd prolly has more fame!!Comment
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Pac moved up TWO weight classes against delaHoya.He beat a Oscar who hadn't seen 147 since damn near the 90's. let's be realistic, he a good fighter but losing to a out of his prime Morales and then beating him after his wars with Barrera and schooling by raheem. then he beat Barrera who was worn down, but still very game. and then he gets a draw with JMM after KOing 3 times in the 1st rd and never really convincingly beating him. this is our best fighter....what pure boxers have he faced, what slick fighters have he faced, what strong fighters have he faced. hatton is going his first fight not fighting a mexican style in i don't now when. This is our best fighter...no i think not. But he a good fighter though, I think he need to do some more before I give him title of king of the ring.
98% percent of fans and experts picked oscar to win and some even wanted to boycott it cause they thought it was gonna be a mismatch. I bet your ass picked Oscar to win too.
Morales may not be in his prime, but he's still one of the best at 130 that time and ALot of fans picked him to win. He lose to Raheem because of Raheem's slick style. Morales had never been with anyone of that style before and that was his debut at 135 where Morales came in overweight at the weigh in. Morales has never tasted the canvass before and Pac was the first to make him, knocking him out TWICE!
And you talk like JMM is just some bum.He's one of the best of this era currently on the #2 p4p spot and if it wasn't for that judge who the 1st rnd 10-7, Pac would've won..
JMM is no Baldomir,Judah,Gatti,Sharmba,Corley,Bruselles,Ndou or some other decent opponents PBF faced that suddenly makes him the GOAT by some of his nuthuggers.
And oh yea, FLOYD IS RETIRED! Deal with it.Last edited by VERDUGO; 01-14-2009, 02:33 PM.Comment
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YEAH I picked oscar to win and that was good win, but i didn't see Oscar that night and it wasn't because pacman that Oscar wasn't Oscar. but pacman did what he was supposed to do, cong**** to him for that. Morales was done and pac never should have fought him a 3rd time. He had climaxed already before their 1st fight..he was done. JMM is good, but he ain't #2... I'll take nate campbell over him at 135 right now. and truth be told JMM wouldn't beat judah now nor earlier or Ndou at that time at 135 or 140. FLOYD RETIRED....DEAL WITH IT, funny lolPac moved up TWO weight classes against delaHoya.
98% percent of fans and experts picked oscar to win and some even wanted to boycott it cause they thought it was gonna be a mismatch. I bet your ass picked Oscar to win too.
Morales may not be in his prime, but he's still one of the best at 130 that time and ALot of fans picked him to win. He lose to Raheem because of Raheem's slick style. Morales had never been with anyone of that style before and that was his debut at 135 where Morales came in overweight at the weigh in. Morales has never tasted the canvass before and Pac was the first to make him, knocking him out TWICE!
And you talk like JMM is just some bum.He's one of the best of this era currently on the #2 p4p spot and if it wasn't for that judge who the 1st rnd 10-7, Pac would've won..
JMM is no Baldomir,Judah,Gatti,Sharmba,Corley,Bruselles,Ndou or some other decent opponents PBF faced that suddenly makes him the GOAT by some of his nuthuggers.
And oh yea, FLOYD IS RETIRED! Deal with it.Comment
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