Manny Pacquiao Will Not Accept 50-50 Split For Hatton Fight

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  • Sin City
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    #131
    Originally posted by Chups
    WTF??? This fight's purse should be 50/50. Gaddamn lawyer.
    How exactly is it the lawyer's fault? The terms where laid down by Pacquio. He is just following his clients orders.

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    • MOREBASS
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      #132
      Originally posted by Sin City
      I think that W against De La Hoya has gotten to Pacquiao's head.
      50-50 is a fair deal. Pacquiao is the number one fighter in the sport and draws a decent crowed. Hatton gets people to fly over seas and puts people in seats.
      People will talk about it's all about PPV revenue but 100+ per seat is a lot of money,
      not to mention the closed circuit television **** that goes 50 bucks a pop in the casinos.
      Also, I believe this will be PPV in the U.K. as well.
      Again, Pacquiao is not a part of the negotiation team.

      Why does everyone imply that Pacquiao himself is the one who is personally sitting at the bargaining table ?


      He has a team of people on the payroll who do this for him.

      Besides, Manny is probably the most humbe person in the sport, so I doubt anything is 'going to his head'.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #133
        Originally posted by MOREBASS
        It seems as if everyone is accounting the win to Oscar's mishaps, as opposed to Manny's great performance. Very disappointing.
        As far as I'm aware almost no-one is saying Manny's performance wasn't great. That doesn't mean De La Hoya's performance can't have been a factor as well - it's not either/or.


        Originally posted by MOREBASS
        In fact, I didn't hear anyone complaining about Oscar's punch output when he fought Floyd.

        He threw 587 punches in that fight in 12 rounds total.

        Against Manny, he threw 402 in just 8 rounds.


        I'm not seeing the huge discrepancy in punch output here. This also goes against the whole dehydrated, and weight drained argument that everyone is making, because if he was so dehydrated and weight drained, then why wasn't his punch output significantly lower than it was in the Floyd fight, where he was the much busier fighter ?
        It's not just output, it's timing, leverage, movement ... his punches weren't sharp. His movement was poor. And it doesn't make sense that a fighter whose main advantage was supposed to be his size would intentionally go in lighter than his opponent. He only put on 2lb after the weigh-in, which indicates something was wrong. Plus he looked as if age was starting to get to him in the fight against Forbes - he couldn't avoid punches in that fight the way he used to. That's not an excuse for DLH, if his preparation went wrong, it's his own fault. And none of that takes anything away from Manny's performance, which was fantastic.

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          #134
          Originally posted by Sin City
          How exactly is it the lawyer's fault? The terms where laid down by Pacquio. He is just following his clients orders.


          Like I said, you'd be surprised at just how little Pacquiao has to do with the negotiations.


          He has a team of advisors and lawyers who are experts at crunching numbers and negotiating contracts.


          He's even stated this himself on several occasions.

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          • iron mike tyson
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            #135
            john bailey
            freddie pendelton
            mikhail krivolapov
            eamon magee
            stephen smith
            vince phillips
            aldo rios
            ben tackie
            dennis pederson
            carlos vilches
            michael stewart
            ray oliveira
            kostya tszyu
            13 fighters with only 1 marquee name on there and they have all got one thing in common
            they all fought ricky hatton at a sold out 22000 arena
            how many fights has pac sold out against no names
            and hes the draw dont make me laugh

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            • Spacey1991
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              #136
              I say split it down the middle 50/50... its fair then. Hatton will sell all of his tickets and Pacquiao probably would too, it would be a big money fight if it happens so they should just split it 50/50, there both big draws regardless. However Pacquiao and his lawyer probably want a bigger percentage because he is Pound for Pound #1, and Hatton might only accept 50/50 through principle. However, regardless of the purse percentages... this fight is going to be massive, I am looking forward to it as others are... and it has to happen (well it doesn't HAVE to... but it would be a massive event so people will be disappointed if it doesn't).

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                #137
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                As far as I'm aware almost no-one is saying Manny's performance wasn't great. That doesn't mean De La Hoya's performance can't have been a factor as well - it's not either/or.
                No argument here. The losing fighter's performance in any fight is always going to be a factor in the outcome of it. I was just stating that most on this board accredit the outcome to Oscar's shortcoming, and not Manny's stellar performance.


                It's not just output, it's timing, leverage, movement ... his punches weren't sharp. His movement was poor. And it doesn't make sense that a fighter whose main advantage was supposed to be his size would intentionally go in lighter than his opponent. He only put on 2lb after the weigh-in, which indicates something was wrong. Plus he looked as if age was starting to get to him in the fight against Forbes - he couldn't avoid punches in that fight the way he used to. That's not an excuse for DLH, if his preparation went wrong, it's his own fault. And none of that takes anything away from Manny's performance, which was fantastic.
                I hear ya.

                The main advantage that he had was size, but more specifically, it was the height and reach advantage that seemed to be the most talked about.

                I just think that the speed was simply too much for Oscar to handle, and I stand firm in my belief that Oscar would have fared much better against an actual welterweight that night.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by MOREBASS
                  No argument here. The losing fighter's performance in any fight is always going to be a factor in the outcome of it. I was just stating that most on this board accredit the outcome to Oscar's shortcoming, and not Manny's stellar performance.
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                  Thats because and i'm not being sarcastic, Malinaggi would have had a good chance to TKO Oscar that night, he looked hurt before the fight started, I can't remember a fighter looking ill before the fight before.

                  Well apart from Ricky "the vampire" Hatton, but that just normal, they don't get much sun in manchester...

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by hammerhiem
                    Thats because and i'm not being sarcastic, Malinaggi would have had a good chance to TKO Oscar that night, he looked hurt before the fight started, I can't remember a fighter looking ill before the fight before.

                    Well apart from Ricky "the vampire" Hatton, but that just normal, they don't get much sun in manchester...

                    Malinaggi couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag if he had scissors taped to to his hands.


                    I couldn't disagree more with that statement.


                    Please explain to me how you equate looking lean, to looking 'ill'


                    I know physicians who couldn't gauge someone's physical condition by watching them on the television. You sir, are gifted.

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                    • Chups
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      Pac nutthuggers are geting owned in this thread.
                      Not all of them because I think it should be 50/50.......fuck PAC!

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