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  • KiloTeague
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    #31
    Name 3 fighters that went undefeated until the age of 35. I don't really think anyone counts that montell griffith fight as a loss, so Roy's first loss was at 35. What are the odds Floyd can go undefeated till hes thirty five, in that time doing things comparable to a once middle weight going up to heavyweight and winning a title. Tell me has matched and or exceeded that instead of comparing him to the 40 year old who just got beat by Calzaghe.

    Honestly the fair thing to do is compare them year to year, year by year and compare there stats and statistics and film when they where the same age.

    If that is done, we are then keeping comparisons in there proper perspectives.

    Roy will show to be superior in every way. Name a stat.

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    • wmute
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      #32
      Originally posted by KiloTeague
      Just Listen!!!

      Roy at age 31 had done more than floyd right now. Roy was a heavyweight champ at 35. And finally lost at age 35. We will see where Floyd is at 35. And I agree Floyd was more complete, but Roy was still twice the athlete with twice the speed and twice the power of Floyd. He could do things in the ring that Floyd could never do. Roy is Lebron and Floyd is Koby athletically. And in Boxing that power means more. Roy was just as hard to hit if not harder to hit than floyd ever was simply because of those gifts from God. Now you want to use that against him and say that he wasn't a good boxer he just had quickness, well winning a boxing match defines how good you are and his god given quickness is part of his game. Its why he fights like he does. But he does know how to box, watch his amatuers. He just wanted to entertain and he could do what ever he wanted out there to he just took what ever stance he wanted and hit you from everywher. Floyd has never dominated divisions and fighters so bad, and consistently outclassed other boxers brutally knocking them out like Roy was. There is only one Roy Jones Jr. There are a couple floyds out there.
      he did? you sure?

      Floyd at 31
      3 divisions lineal champ (30, 35, 47) + beat the best at 40
      belts in 5 divisions
      undefeated

      Roy at 31
      0 divisions lineal champ... (yep DM was... NOT Roy)
      belts in 3 divisions
      collected a DQ loss (deserved, but just out of a moment of not keeping it cool in a fight which opened in a frustrating way for Roy)

      If you notice, nowhere I m making the claim that Floyd is better than Roy.

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      • wmute
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        #33
        Originally posted by KiloTeague
        Name 3 fighters that went undefeated until the age of 35. I don't really think anyone counts that montell griffith fight as a loss, so Roy's first loss was at 35. What are the odds Floyd can go undefeated till hes thirty five, in that time doing things comparable to a once middle weight going up to heavyweight and winning a title. Tell me has matched and or exceeded that instead of comparing him to the 40 year old who just got beat by Calzaghe.

        Honestly the fair thing to do is compare them year to year, year by year and compare there stats and statistics and film when they where the same age.

        If that is done, we are then keeping comparisons in there proper perspectives.

        Roy will show to be superior in every way. Name a stat.
        wrong sport for stats IMO but see my previous post

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        • larryx
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          #34
          Originally posted by wmute
          he did? you sure?

          Floyd at 31
          3 divisions lineal champ (30, 35, 47) + beat the best at 40
          belts in 5 divisions
          undefeated

          Roy at 31
          0 divisions lineal champ... (yep DM was... NOT Roy)
          belts in 3 divisions
          collected a DQ loss (deserved, but just out of a moment of not keeping it cool in a fight which opened in a frustrating way for Roy)

          If you notice, nowhere I m making the claim that Floyd is better than Roy.
          dont think anyone would argue that roy jones was the lineal champ at 175

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          • wmute
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            #35
            I am glad to see Roy get all this love, it was not like when he was embarassing everyone he faced. Same thing happened to Whitaker. It will probably happen to Mayweather too. The only p4p fighter to be fully appreciated in his time that I know of seems to be Leonard.

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            • wmute
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              #36
              Originally posted by larryx
              dont think anyone would argue that roy jones was the lineal champ at 175
              considering he never beat the man, and *all* his belts were stripped from DM or from someone DM actually beat in the ring, he definitely wasnt. And I am definitely not the only one who thinks of it this way.

              Would have Roy beaten DM? I surely think so. Was Roy the lineal champ? NO

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              • Xplosivo
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                #37
                Originally posted by KiloTeague
                Name 3 fighters that went undefeated until the age of 35. .
                Joe Calzaghe
                Larry Holmes
                Ricardo Lopez

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                • KiloTeague
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                  #38
                  I think you guys are holding his beat downs at the end of a 20 year career against him to much. Remember for fifteen years Roy was unbeatable. I know some people know what I'm talking about, like Roy was a 30-1 and 40-1 betting favorite. Floyd doesn't get those odds. Floyd is lucky to see 8-1. Now Floyd is one of my favorite boxers, but without saying Roy is better than Floyd I will say this, Roy dominated fighters in the ring much more than floyd. Floyd had a total package defensively, but Roy had the total package offensively. Roy had every punch known to man, and then a few more. Roy could hit you with five punches as easy as floyd hits with one. Floyd has good power but Roy had a great knockout punch, enough to keep a heavy weight off of him.

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                  • Xplosivo
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by larryx
                    dont think anyone would argue that roy jones was the lineal champ at 175
                    Dariusz Michalczewski was, if you go according to the lineage. Roy was just a better fighter, with a lot of titles who would have beaten DM, but if you go with the proper lineage of the titles DM was the linear champ.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                      First of al, dumbass, Floyd injured his arm in the opening rounds of the first Castillo match AND was outweighed by over 10 lbs by Castillo on fight night and yet he still wooped his ass. He gave him a rematch when he wasn't injured and he wooped Castillo's ass.

                      Oh and Floyd is undefeated, is Roy? Oh that's right he was brutally KTFO into a coma twice LOL..
                      god you're a horrible poster.

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