Why Won't People Respect Joe Calzaghe?

[andrewcuff]

Yes I'm sure that is what happened with Hopkins. Nasty 'ol Don King leaned on him.

And No, you didn't say that he was the biggest fraud in the history of boxing, but by refusing to give him any credit whatsoever, that is what you imply.

I started this thread with two objectives: 1) To point out that Calzaghe has very good skills as a boxer and 2) He hasn't spent his entire career avoiding everyone then claiming he's the greatest (yes the legend killer comment annoying me too before you bring it up as proof that I'm clueless).

I've noticed that everyone is happy to dissect Calzaghe's resume with such enthusiasm, but where is the criticism of Roy Jones then? The man had all the skills in the world, but didn't want to fight big names did he? (Not counting Toney of course. And the B-Hop that Calzaghe beat was better than the one RJJ beat. Watch the fights if you don't believe this)

[Vasyl’s dad]

Can I refer you to this link on the BBC Website, dated 22/11/2000:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/wales/1035771.stm

Calzaghe says "He's one of the best fighters in the world and it would be a massive challenge". Calzaghe's promoter flew out to meet Jones' representatives a week later and nothing come of it, so yes I will stick by my assertion that Jones ducked Calzaghe years ago.

I'd also like to refer you to an incident in the 1990s regarding Roy Jones. Nigel Benn offered to fight Jones for FREE, giving Roy Jones his entire purse, but Jones refused the fight. Now that is what most people would define DUCKING as.

Jones was the Mayweather of his day.

[bsrizpac]

Nothing su****ious at all, Look when you have to deal with people like Don king as your promoter then you hve to be very careful what you agree/sign to. I have NO doubt that King try to do something dodgy and hopkins pulled out because of that.

It's more than that. Hopkins had been looking for aw ay to get out of Kings contract. if you read his comments before and during and after the Unification tourney he states he ONLY signed with King to get the unification because it was the only for that to happen. he was desperate to get out of Kings contract after and was locked in. He found a way to do that and took it.

Of course Joe ballgaggers think he ducked Joe. that's what they do. Lie and distort -anything to make Joe look good.

Isn't it odd how JOE is always involved in these controversies? Woods, Johnson, Hopkins, Reid....etc?

[bsrizpac]

Jones was the Mayweather of his day.

Stick to what you know : Nuthugging Mexicans and excusing Margarito not fighting Williams.

[bsrizpac]

Yes I'm sure that is what happened with Hopkins. Nasty 'ol Don King leaned on him.

And No, you didn't say that he was the biggest fraud in the history of boxing, but by refusing to give him any credit whatsoever, that is what you imply.

I started this thread with two objectives: 1) To point out that Calzaghe has very good skills as a boxer and 2) He hasn't spent his entire career avoiding everyone then claiming he's the greatest (yes the legend killer comment annoying me too before you bring it up as proof that I'm clueless).

I've noticed that everyone is happy to dissect Calzaghe's resume with such enthusiasm, but where is the criticism of Roy Jones then? The man had all the skills in the world, but didn't want to fight big names did he? (Not counting Toney of course. And the B-Hop that Calzaghe beat was better than the one RJJ beat. Watch the fights if you don't believe this)

1. You lied about Jones ducking him.

2. You admitted that you didn't watch boxing then, so how the hell do you know what Don King did or didn't do? LMAO.

3. I have given Joe credit multiple times, too bad you can't read. He's a very good fighter.

4. He has a questionable resume and a history of not stepping up or taking any challenges. Sorry that makes you cry.

5. Comparing Joe's resume to Jones is a joke. You are now a joke. Just like Captain Purple above.

[IMDAZED]

You know...they say that when a nut swinger is murdered...his posts will echo....

"Haha nice try mate"

Reads just like old times.

Welcome back, Dirk.

[bsrizpac]

"Haha nice try mate"

Reads just like old times.

Welcome back, Dirk.

Dirk is now tag teaming with Captain purple aka mr. "I barfought and had tons of street fights and blindly worship all Mexican fighters".

Scary combo.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Stick to what you know : Nuthugging Mexicans and excusing Margarito not fighting Williams.

Stick to what you know, being NSBs resident tourettes syndrome never say nothing wierdo.


I'll stick to the facts as always.


Roy and Hopkins weren't much interested in Joe Calzaghe either.


Goes both ways, not just one.

[ACHlLLES]

They're usually either 12 year olds who know nothing about boxing, or people who really hate the british or white fighters. These so called people who say the love boxing, couldn't ever accomplish what Joe has done in this sport.

They say he fought bums, yet those same bums would have ko'd these little 12 yr olds who talk **** because they're just keyboard warriors.

[Jim Jeffries]

LOL....is this who I think it is?...PM me if so...



Can't believe that Welsh thread starter typed all that bull****...thinking it was gonna impress or sway anyone who's objective and knows better....

The **** outta here...


and for the record...for all of you agreeing with him.....because you're uhhhh....coughSHEEPcough....


Most of us American Boxing fans didn't approve of Calzaghe well before this bull****, late American run.....we recognized he was contriving an undefeated record in his backyard.....takin' out has beens and local villagers....we saw how he was hiding out and ruling in the 168 wasteland........not to mention allll the unwarranted arrogance and excuses he gave us...

You see...that's the difference between American Boxing fans and other countries' Boxing fans.....for the most part, we don't care where a fighter's from....we'll recognize and appreciate the real deal....we may have a Mexican, a Filipino, or a Puerto Rican as our favorite fighter....the only reason we get nationalistic is because they start with that ****....


"At the end of the day..."....Joe Calzaghe is/was...



End of story.

P*ss off if you don't like it...

If being racist meant despising ****ed up, Boxing fans....then yes...I'm the biggest racist you've ever encountered...

**** you AND your biased, blind, inconsistent, and inaccurate view...

You WISH they were lies...

His resume is CHOCK FULL of has beens, never wases, and spit bucket engineers...

I still can't get over the fact a guy from WALES started this thread...talk about showing your hand....lol

God I love Owning these **** ups...

Nice work, fellas...I'll go get some body bags...

Dead men can't read.

(smiles at and gives dap to Ray Corey from London)

You know...they say that when a nut swinger is murdered...his posts will echo....

and I'm officially red....Yes!

I'd like to send a special shot out to a certain...uhhh....Jim Jeffries...for being affected and making this possible...

Thank you for your amazing contributions to this thread.

As for Calzaghe, not everyone is required to respect him. Some don't like his style of fighting, some don't recognize any names on his resume (and don't think he deserves any credit for the ones they do,) some think he's vastly overrated. That's their prerogative. You can argue till you're blue in the face and you won't change their minds. Personally I can think of better things to do.