Do you consider Juan Manuel Marquez a legend?

[ИATAS]

I know Diaz is good but people talk about him like if he's God.

That's because he is. If Marquez wins, my All Time Pound 4 Pound list will look like this:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mike Tyson
3. Antonio Tarver
4. JMM
5. James Toney
6. Ali
7. Sven Ottke
8. Leon Spinks
9. Duran
10. Tommy Morrison

[BlackHat]

not yet.

JMM hasn't done much significant things to be considered a legend. He has controversial loss with Chris John which he doesnt seem to be eager to avenge. His most notable win was with Casamayor and will always be remebered in the shadow of Pac.

[Low Blow Armo]

Mos def. Not only is the guy a legend, he's a must watch.

[S.G.]

Dude, Diaz would be a good win - nothing more.

i disagree.... a good win is Pacquiao's win over David Diaz

this is a level above that, although obviously J Diaz is not a GREAT

[rizkybizness]

i disagree.... a good win is Pacquiao's win over David Diaz

this is a level above that, although obviously J Diaz is not a GREAT

they're BOTH good wins

[PoetryInMotion]

and who is Diaz to push him over the line?

I think JMM will be a legend in the same respects as Barrera and Morales. I believe Diaz is a tough, young, hungry fighter. If JMM fights old fighters he catches crap for fighting old fighters, now that he's taking on a young lion, he's catching crap because Diaz hasn't done enough to push him into Legendary status. I understand why some fighters take the easy money fights and dont worry about pleasing the fans. Dawson has proved alot less then Diaz, but still some people feel Calzaghe has to beat him in order to achieve ATG status.

[rizkybizness]

That's because he is. If Marquez wins, my All Time Pound 4 Pound list will look like this:

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mike Tyson
3. Antonio Tarver
4. JMM
5. James Toney
6. Ali
7. Sven Ottke
8. Leon Spinks
9. Duran
10. Tommy Morrison

dumb inbred.

you forgot Chris Eubank.

[rizkybizness]

I think JMM will be a legend in the same respects as Barrera and Morales. I believe Diaz is a tough, young, hungry fighter. If JMM fights old fighters he catches crap for fighting old fighters, now that he's taking on a young lion, he's catching crap because Diaz hasn't done enough to push him into Legendary status. I understand why some fighters take the easy money fights and dont worry about pleasing the fans. Dawson has proved alot less then Diaz, but still some people feel Calzaghe has to beat him in order to achieve ATG status.

i'm not trynna give JMM **** for fighting Diaz, i think this is a great fight BUT to say that JMM is NOT a legend right now but will be once he beats Diaz is absurd.

[Chups]

He's Great but not yet a legend like Morales or Barrera. He doesn't even make top 20 Mexico's best.

[S.G.]

i'm not trynna give JMM **** for fighting Diaz, i think this is a great fight BUT to say that JMM is NOT a legend right now but will be once he beats Diaz is absurd.

i'm not saying that is his career defining fight for the record, i'm saying it might be the final push he needs to be considered in that "legendary" category