Juan Manuel Marquez Wants To Force a Pacquiao Trilogy

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  • pistol whip
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    #91
    Originally posted by JAS_JAS
    coulda shoulda woulda. your speaking speculation brotha ^_^. i wont put too much weight on it because it didnt happen ^_^
    Ok here is some truth for you. Only one round seperates the two and thats what makes him number 2 pound for pound ahead of fighters like Hopkins, Joe C, Margarito, Paul Williams, Cotto and more. All info here is fact!!

    Also add that he won the linear lightweight championship somthing PacMan never did and never will because he has said he will never fight at lightweight again.

    Any more facts for yea?

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      #92
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      The diffrence is nobody is trying to discredit Pacman and all of you are trying to discredit Marquez even though he's the only guy to push Pacman to the limit like no other fighter has in years.

      He's Number 2 in the world for a reason and considering that even junior middleweights are getting Knocked out by Pacman Manny is the only name that Marquez needs on his resume to be great.
      Exactly what I was trying to explain. Marquez needs Pacquiao and I dont blame him either.

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      • riveraboxing
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        #93
        Originally posted by trainhard_187
        No fighter would be where they are without the other fighter I agree with you completely but what im trying to explain is exactly what I posted.

        Take Marquez out of Pac's resume where would Pac be? Im sure he would still be P4P cause no one credits him with his win over Marquez anyways. So make like Marquez and Pac never fought. Pac would of still fought at 135 cause Marquez had nothing to do with him going after a title at 135 and Pac would of still fought Delahoya. Pac paved his own legacy without Marquez

        Take Pac out of Marquez's resume, would Marquez be at 135lb today. NO. Would he be #2 on some peoples P4P list cause the only reason why people rank him so high is his close fights with Pac.

        Use these two fighters where would one be without the other.
        I think you have some great points to debate....I see what u are trying to say but again, using this logic Pacquaio would have never been at 135 either if legends like Morales and Barrera hadn't have given him shots.... He moved up to meet them at 130 and 126, respectively... Its just what happens in sports.. As far as Marquez rating, it has to do with his fights with Pacquaio just like Pacquiao got where he was by established guys giving shots... He lost to Morales the 1st time and got a rematch and then got a trilogy cause with a win apiece both wanted to prove whos greater... Pacquaio is a win and a draw with Marquez, lets go it again

        .... and I disagree with u about DLH... Pacquaio would have never gotten DLH if not for Pacquaio's fighting with Morales, Barerra, AND Marquez... These names helped establish him....

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        • JAS_JAS
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          #94
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          The diffrence is nobody is trying to discredit Pacman and all of you are trying to discredit Marquez even though he's the only guy to push Pacman to the limit like no other fighter has in years.

          He's Number 2 in the world for a reason and considering that even junior middleweights are getting Knocked out by Pacman [B]Manny is the only name that Marquez needs on his resume to be great.


          aer u saying torrecampo and singsurat are great fighters (HOF) bec they both beat the PACMAN they only nid PACMAN on their resume? WTF are you talking about man??

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            #95
            Originally posted by riveraboxing
            l know if u didn't hear it can't be true...

            So what if Hatton is undefeated at 140... Do u really think he's a bigger threat then JMM?? Do u think style wise that Hatton is gonna beat Pacquaio?? Do I care if Hatton fights Pacquaio, no... i have a hard time believing that u honestly believe Hatton and Floyd are more intriging matches
            Becuase if it is not being put into news articles that means its not official or it didn't happen at all...

            They are a better fight for pacquiao for me both legacy and money... And still do hope that he fights also margarito which is more intiguing than a JMM fight...

            Then style wise also that Chris John can really defeat marquez... Your reasoning goes also to you....

            A pac-JMM trilogy is also also what i want but if ever floyd or margarito is in line for paquiao i chose to watch those matchup because i have seen the two fights already...

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              #96
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              The diffrence is nobody is trying to discredit Pacman and all of you are trying to discredit Marquez even though he's the only guy to push Pacman to the limit like no other fighter has in years.

              He's Number 2 in the world for a reason and considering that even junior middleweights are getting Knocked out by Pacman Manny is the only name that Marquez needs on his resume to be great.
              Actually many are discrediting pacquiao...

              i am not discrediting marquez... did i mention any negative statement regarding marquez? Try to read all my post and say if i'm discrediting marquez...

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                #97
                Originally posted by JAS_JAS
                yeah right ignorant haters usually spew rumors ^_^ lolz. **** them 12 yr old haters
                I will respond to u just one more time just to help ya out cause I am a nice guy...

                1) Ur a moron
                2) I didn't spew anything to harm anyone's reputation... Ya clearly can't read
                3) I gave you an explanation that u either have no retort to or u couldn't comprehend... My guess both
                4) If I can find where that was said about Marquez but the fact is I have been reading boxing mags since 1994 and on sites like these for about two years (took me a long time to join the forums, wish i would have joined sooner)... Do I need to spell it out
                5) I don't hate Pacquaio nor do I think he isn't worthy of his accomplishments
                7)Some people apparently think I have valid points

                Have a nice day

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                • pistol whip
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by JAS_JAS
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                  aer u saying torrecampo and singsurat are great fighters (HOF) bec they both beat the PACMAN they only nid PACMAN on their resume? WTF are you talking about man??

                  Ok if you wanna play that game then how about Manny losing and getting knocked out by Medgeon Singsurat. I can play this game to the only diffrence is I still consider Manny a great fighter while you are such an ignorent mouthbreathing ****** that you will use fights early in marquez career to discredit him. If Marquez is overrated then so Is Manny since only one round seperates the two fighters and thats a mother****ing fact.


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                  • start11
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by riveraboxing
                    I think you have some great points to debate....I see what u are trying to say but again, using this logic Pacquaio would have never been at 135 either if legends like Morales and Barrera hadn't have given him shots.... He moved up to meet them at 130 and 126, respectively... Its just what happens in sports.. As far as Marquez rating, it has to do with his fights with Pacquaio just like Pacquiao got where he was by established guys giving shots... He lost to Morales the 1st time and got a rematch and then got a trilogy cause with a win apiece both wanted to prove whos greater... Pacquaio is a win and a draw with Marquez, lets go it again

                    .... and I disagree with u about DLH... Pacquaio would have never gotten DLH if not for Pacquaio's fighting with Morales, Barerra, AND Marquez... These names helped establish him....
                    I think everybody wanted a rematch of pac-marquez, even myself i wanted to see a trilogy... the only problem is that you cannot see the reason why it cant be made right now... Patience is virute, lets just wait and hope that it should happen...

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                    • pistol whip
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by start11
                      Actually many are discrediting pacquiao...

                      i am not discrediting marquez... did i mention any negative statement regarding marquez? Try to read all my post and say if i'm discrediting marquez...

                      Does everybody mean one individual in particular?

                      Whats funny is that these mongaloid Pacman fanatics don't grasp the fact that discrediting Marquez also means that they are discrediting pacman's greatest challange.

                      Seriously how ****** can you be?

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