Why Margarito is bad for Mayweather!

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I never said he didn't. Its actually the first fight I'd like to see. However, we've been through this a million times before. Paul declined an immediate rematch and didn't want any of Tony until after July 26th. Its the same with Floyd denying a fight with Tony period. What did Tony do? Did he wait around doing nothing? No, he just moved on.

Margarito has earned his shot at anyone at this stage of his career. A decision loss to Williams doesn't change that.

Just like a Judah loss to Baldomir never changed the Mayweather Judah plans. Just like a Morales loss to Raheem never changed the Pacquiao rematch plans.


Why don't you just admit Floyd isn't as confident in his abilities against the best welters as you are?

He wouldn't have retired if he was. Hes all about the money, and a fight with Margarito or Cotto, while they wouldn't bring him DLH money, would still land him a nice chunk of change.

Floyds scared though. Nothing you have ever posted has ever refuted that.

Floyd is the greatest fighter of this generation he is scared of NOONE.

Floyds scared though. Nothing you have ever posted has ever refuted that

My Response:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...26#post4507026

The Recent Moved By Margarito ducking

• Williams for 4 Million

When His highest Payday ever is 1.5 Million, and he rather fight a wash up Mosley for 2 Million instead of Clearing Up the WW division and Avenging his lost to Williams. IS ******.

Margarito is not some Box Office star. he does not have P.P.V Appeal.
.He has made a Name for himself. But this is when the work really starts. This when you are suppose to validate yourself now as a legit legend of the sport. Not Another Winky Wright who became famous by beating a well know fighter, but never took the risk required to validate himself as a truly great fighter in the sport.

Margarito is on the fast Line of being irrelevant, if he does not take the opportunity when it is presented to him...He did a complete 180...
He went from the most avoided fighter, to the fighter who is now openly avoiding fights.

[C.Y.]

Get the **** outta here with the Boxing is a business stance. That ****s old and tired.

Who was Mayweather before he fought Genaro? How much money was he making before he fought DLH? If it was so easy, he would have already done it.

See Sharmba Mitchell, Demarcus Corley, Henry Brusseles and Arturo Gatti.


Anyone who is a fan of the sport doesn't give two ****s about what the fighters make. Thats some groupie **** right there.

Before you make the big money fights you have to put in work.. you can't sit here and honestly say fighters dont want big money fights.. are you that dumb? Like i said earlier you're entitled to your opinion and thats fine and dandy.. but you really sound like a hater forreal.. on some gay **** hating on another man like that..

Especially since Margarito has fought his fair share of bums and old fighters.. see Manuel Gomez, Buck Smith, Golden Johnson, Frankie Randall, Shane Mosley, etc

This man is in a division he shouldnt even be fighting in.. He should move up and fight real competition oh wait he's done that before and got sent back down to welterweight by Santos

Floyd's career and resume>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Margarito

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd is the greatest fighter of this generation he is scared of NOONE.

Floyds scared though. Nothing you have ever posted has ever refuted that

My Response:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...26#post4507026

The Recent Moved By Margarito ducking

• Williams for 4 Million

When His highest Payday ever is 1.5 Million, and he rather fight a wash up Mosley for 2 Million instead of Clearing Up the WW division and Avenging his lost to Williams. IS ******.

Margarito is not some Box Office star. he does not have P.P.V Appeal.
.He has made a Name for himself. But this is when the work really starts. This when you are suppose to validate yourself now as a legit legend of the sport. Not Another Winky Wright who became famous by beating a well know fighter, but never took the risk required to validate himself as a truly great fighter in the sport.

Margarito is on the fast Line of being irrelevant, if he does not take the opportunity when it is presented to him...He did a complete 180...
He went from the most avoided fighter, to the fighter who is now openly avoiding fights.

In the summer of 2006, Antonio Margarito confronted Floyd Mayweather in Las Vegas at a press conference and asked the self-proclaimed best fighter in history about a fight together and why Floyd was ducking and dodging Bob Arum’s hefty offers to box him. Floyd, face quivering, said the fight didn’t make business sense at the time and that in the future he would fight Margarito, “You get your shot, you get your shot,” promised Mayweather. Sitting in a chair looking up at Margarito, Floyd reached out to hold Margarito’s hand, as if the handshake on top of his word bound the promise as a deal. Mano a Mano, Floyd was promising Margarito a future fight. (See www.youtube.com “Margarito confronts Mayweather.”)

But now we know it was a lie and Floyd is a liar. HBO is said to be very interested in making Mayweather vs. Margarito for 2008 or early 2009 but a source fairly close to Mayweather has said, on the record, Floyd vs. Margarito “will never happen. Never.”

Of course, it comes as no surprise to many boxing followers who are keen on Mayweather’s perpetual ducking and dodging of tough fights despite his contradictory and misleading public statements. Case in point, see how Mayweather vilified Margarito in the media…

“I don’t know who (Margarito) is.”

“Margarito would be easy work. If Bob shows me the money, I’ll fight anybody anywhere. If it makes dollars it makes sense.”

“(Margarito is) levels below me. I’ll punish him for being on the level he is. I’ll punish him for disrespecting my team.”

“Bob Arum is the greatest promoter in history. I love Bob Arum. I love HBO.”

“My team calls all the shots out of the ring, I call them in the ring.”

“Maybe I can fight Margarito next - if I pick his name out of the hat.”

“Who has Margarito beaten to deserve a shot at me? Once he beat two or three big names then we’ll fight.”

“Me and Margarito, we’re not fighting to prove to the boxing fans who the best is.”

“I don’t duck or dodge anybody.”

“But you got to realize this: I’m an A level, I’m an A level opponent, Oscar De La Hoya’s an A level, Floyd Mayweather’s an A level, I mean Margarito is a, he got D level fighters. He had Bob Arum, he got D level fighters. You know without, be honest, without Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya, I mean, what is Top Rank, honestly?”

“I mean, the fight with Henry Bruseles - somebody had to give him a chance. You know, everybody gives, I mean, how will we ever know how good a person is till you give them a chance? Somebody had to give him that chance. So I gave him that chance.”

“Who is Margarito? He don’t bring **** to the table.”

“Like I said before, I grabbed boxing fans and asked who is this guy (Margarito) and they didn’t even know who he was.”

“Like I said before I beat Margarito’s ass any day of the week. If this is the fight the fans want to see so be it. Margarito don’t dictate what I do. Don’t no one know who Margarito is.”

“I have more respect for Genaro Hernandez than anybody. Because that was the start of everything. He gave me a chance. I have more respect for Genaro Hernandez than any fighter. Anybody that gives me a chance I have respect for.”

“Margarito - he’s an average fighter. Why would I be scared of him?”

“You know me I’m running my mouth a lot and I’m looking for a guy to shut me up. If you don’t shut me up I’m going to keep running my mouth. Nobody can beat me, there is no way to beat me.”

“I know when someone is tailor-made for me, that I will punish.”

“I want to beat the best out there and whoever is considered the top fighters of my era.”

“I don’t really want to talk about this guy (Margarito). Because I see things that Bob Arum does that don’t make any sense. He says I’m the best fighter in the business, I’m the best fighter since Muhammad Ali. But then he’s talking about me ducking and dodging a fighter. He kicks me out of his boxing gym, then he wants me to fight his fighter (Margarito). How can you talk about doing future business with me if you’re conducting yourself with disorderly conduct?”

“It’s a smart business decision to not fight you now but we will down the road.” (Floyd said this to Margarito’s face while holding his hand, after Margarito confronted him at the Mayorga-De La Hoya press conference in May.)

(Judah’s) already beaten. He’s beat mentally. I just have to do the physical part. I beat every fighter mentally before I beat him physically. There is no on stronger than me mentally.”

“I’m not in the game for just the money, I’m in the game to be a legend. And give the fans and media all around the world exciting fights.”

“(To the media after defeating Carlos Baldomir in Nov.) I love the sport. One more fight and I’m through. I don’t need boxing. I’m not in it for the money. It’s about legacy. I’m rich and I’ve accomplished what I want.”

“They talk about Floyd Mayweather duckin’ and dodgin’ opponents. Listen. I’m trying to fight the number one guy. If the number one guy can’t fight, then I’m fightin’ the number two guy. If I can’t fight number two, I’m fighting number three.”

“I just dish out ass whoopin’s.”

“From 154 on down I tear everyone’s ass up.”

“I don’t know who Paul Williams is. But I hear he’s a pretty good young fighter.”

Leonard Ellerbe: “Margarito has four losses, why should we fight a guy with four losses?” (A few months later Mayweather signed to fight 35-year-old Carlos Baldomir, who had NINE losses.)

So after all those denigrating words about Margarito, now we learn that Floyd will not keep his word and will “never” fight Margarito.

For well over two years it’s been suspected by a few that Mayweather was scared and frightened of Antonio Margarito. But the Floyd-loyalists refused to accept it, No man who steps in those ropes is afraid. Floyd just be waiting for it to be a big money fight. Etc.

Well, it’s a fact now. Even Roger Mayweather can’t hide or deny the truth any longer. Floyd is flat-out scared, 100% fearful of the knockout beating he will endure at the hands of Margarito. Those boxing skills are guided by a man without the heart or the courage to test those skills against a relentless ferocious brute force like Antonio Margarito. Margarito is so fearsome, Mayweather will not fight him, it’s non-negotiable. No price is high enough, nothing in the world is going to persuade Floyd to make the fight boxing fans, the media and HBO want to see most of all.

And that will be the legacy of Mayweather, a talented boxer, a multiple title-holder who ducked and dodged and feared to face the most formidable challenges of his career.

As for the inevitable comeback of Mayweather against another handpicked safe opponent, any TV network would be foolishly mistaken to pay this manufactured fraud anything close to what he demands. Negotiations should be simple, Floyd you take what we offer you. You have no leverage after so openly avoiding Miguel Cotto and Antonio Margarito. Your market value has severely depreciated.

There just is no public demand to see Floyd face anyone now but Margarito, the man he once vilified in the media. Oscar vs. Floyd is just a set-up exhibition between two men who fear Margarito. What would Oscar vs. Floyd II be billed as? How about “The Battle of the Chickens.”

Personally, I think Mayweather and his ducking ways should be banned from boxing. His lousy fights against handpicked opposition give boxing a bad name and if permitted to continue could do even more irreparable damage. MMA is too entertaining an option now for boxing fans to give their time and hard-earned dollars to. At this important time in boxing history, Boxing must give the fans real, competitive intriguing fights. And garbage fights like Oscar vs. Floyd II should not even be considered let alone offered to the public as first-class, five-star sporting entertainment.

If Mayweather can’t find the courage or motivation to face the greatest challenge of his career, let him stay in hiding I mean retirement.


This is boxing you clown, not a game of Monopoly.

Only groupies are concerned about how much money they make.


Lol at Tony making Floyd his ***** in public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOSYzIKJFro

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=ZBAFUJR9

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Floyd is the greatest fighter of this generation he is scared of NOONE.

Floyds scared though. Nothing you have ever posted has ever refuted that

My Response:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...26#post4507026

The Recent Moved By Margarito ducking

• Williams for 4 Million

When His highest Payday ever is 1.5 Million, and he rather fight a wash up Mosley for 2 Million instead of Clearing Up the WW division and Avenging his lost to Williams. IS ******.

Margarito is not some Box Office star. he does not have P.P.V Appeal.
.He has made a Name for himself. But this is when the work really starts. This when you are suppose to validate yourself now as a legit legend of the sport. Not Another Winky Wright who became famous by beating a well know fighter, but never took the risk required to validate himself as a truly great fighter in the sport.

Margarito is on the fast Line of being irrelevant, if he does not take the opportunity when it is presented to him...He did a complete 180...
He went from the most avoided fighter, to the fighter who is now openly avoiding fights.

So when is Floyd gonna do all these things you want Margarito to do?

I like how you ignore all my posts because you have nothing of substance to say ever.

[Sweet Pea 50]

If anybody is going to take the crown, Mayweather could do it. This dude was hitting body bags since he was a zygote.
The thing is, you call it running. But make no mistake. Mayweather would be tagging Margarito all ****ing day.
"I got him. I got him. I go-------" BLAP.
Really, he is the P4P champ. Not Manny. Not Joe.
Mayweather vs. Manny at 140.
Manny will get beat. No doubt.

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Before you make the big money fights you have to put in work.. you can't sit here and honestly say fighters dont want big money fights.. are you that dumb? Like i said earlier you're entitled to your opinion and thats fine and dandy.. but you really sound like a hater forreal.. on some gay **** hating on another man like that..

Especially since Margarito has fought his fair share of bums and old fighters.. see Manuel Gomez, Buck Smith, Golden Johnson, Frankie Randall, Shane Mosley, etc

This man is in a division he shouldnt even be fighting in.. He should move up and fight real competition oh wait he's done that before and got sent back down to welterweight by Santos

Floyd's career and resume>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Margarito

When the *** has Floyd ever put in any real work? And then you bring up the weight issue that just further proves that you are so afraid ofFloyd fighting Tony that you are already coming up with excuses before the fight has even happened.

I'm not hating on Floyd I'm just saying if you wanna call yourself the gretest of all time you have to fight the greatest of all time. Nobody is calling Tony an all time great right now yet he's still considered a fighter foyd needs to fight to really cement his place in boxing. That really says how ****ty Floyds resume is when he needs Antonio Margarito on it to get any real respect.

[C.Y.]

1. Your argument is faulted because Cotto and Cotty both lost to Margarito. So if you want Floyd to follow a game plan that produced two losses then yeah i guess your point must be that floyd would still lose?


2. Carlos baldomir and Zab judah are Not elite fighters. Neither is Gatti and neither is 34 year old Oscar. So what names are you gonna throw at me now?

No i guess you didn't really read my post.. My argument is not faulted because Mayweather is faster and a superior boxer compared to both Clottey and Cotto.. Unless you think otherwise? Floyd isn't a one dimensional fighter he can find many ways to win and be effective against Margarito..

Judah and Baldomir were the last two legit Ring magazine champions and FLoyd beat both of them.. Oscar was the man at 154.. Gatti had a belt but i neevr thought he was that good of a fighter anyways.. neither was Baldomir for that matter but he was the ring champ.. I guess guys like Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Angel Manfredy, Jose Luis Castillo, Genaro Hernandez, etc dont ring a bell???

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If anybody is going to take the crown, Mayweather could do it. This dude was hitting body bags since he was a zygote.
The thing is, you call it running. But make no mistake. Mayweather would be tagging Margarito all ****ing day.
"I got him. I got him. I go-------" BLAP.
Really, he is the P4P champ. Not Manny. Not Joe.
Mayweather vs. Manny at 140.
Manny will get beat. No doubt.

You can say Floyd would do this and do that but i just wanna see him sign the contract to fight Tony first. Lets see Floyd grow some balls first then we can speculate what the fight would be like.


Also you can't be a PFP king if you are retired and If we all thought the way you do then Rock Marciano should be considered the PFP king since you know he never actually lost.

[C.Y.]

When the *** has Floyd ever put in any real work? And then you bring up the weight issue that just further proves that you are so afraid ofFloyd fighting Tony that you are already coming up with excuses before the fight has even happened.

I'm not hating on Floyd I'm just saying if you wanna call yourself the gretest of all time you have to fight the greatest of all time. Nobody is calling Tony an all time great right now yet he's still considered a fighter foyd needs to fight to really cement his place in boxing. That really says how ****ty Floyds resume is when he needs Antonio Margarito on it to get any real respect.

there is no weight issue.. We got floyd fighting in his 4th, 5th division, and people are complaining about who he's fighting..

We got margarito picking on smaller fighters because he cant cut it at 154

Why would i be afraid of Mayweather fighting MArgarito? HONEST TO GOD I PUT IT ON EVERYTHING I LOVE I WANT FLOYD TO FIGHT MARGARITO..

it would be a easy victory and it might shut some of the haters up.. Floyd has a great resume, he just also has alot of haters.. if you can't put all biased opinions to the side and not respect a boxer for what he has done in the ring, than thats a personal problem..

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No i guess you didn't really read my post.. My argument is not faulted because Mayweather is faster and a superior boxer compared to both Clottey and Cotto.. Unless you think otherwise? Floyd isn't a one dimensional fighter he can find many ways to win and be effective against Margarito..

Judah and Baldomir were the last two legit Ring magazine champions and FLoyd beat both of them.. Oscar was the man at 154.. Gatti had a belt but i neevr thought he was that good of a fighter anyways.. neither was Baldomir for that matter but he was the ring champ.. I guess guys like Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Angel Manfredy, Jose Luis Castillo, Genaro Hernandez, etc dont ring a bell???

See this is what I mean they were all C and B level fighters every single one of them and the sad thing is you have to hype them as fighters instead of letting them speak for floyds resume themselves.

AN ALL TIME GREAT DOESNT NEED HIS FANS TO HYPE HIS RESUME!!!!!


And the sheer fact that you think that Oscar (who was actually ranked 4th in the ring ratings) was the man in tha 154 division and yet make no mention of hatton on Floyds resume shows that you know jack **** about Floyd or Boxing.