Vitali Klitschko-Juan Carlos Gomez Announce Done Deal

[kayjay]

And you completely missed the point as well. Its not a real world title. Klitschko/Haye won't really bring us any closer to a real title shot either (the brother need to fight one another) but like you said they aren't the future, but we have no heavyweight champion right now, so at least meaningful fights against a former world champion (Haye) and a former world title contender and trinket titlist (Vitali) is more important than two former sanctioning body titlist. Gomez isn't the future either, and Haye doesn't need to prove himself at heavyweight. It was ok for Calzaghe to challenge for Hopkins world title at light heavyweight when he hadn't even fought at that weight before because he was a world champion at SMW. Thats the deal with Haye, he is a former world champion at cruiserweight where neither Klitschko brother have been champions yet they both have been the best heavyweight in the world at some point (Vitali 2004, and Wladimir 2006-present) in their careers.

So your point rests on the fact that Haye beat Mormeck and Enzo, instead of McCall and Virchis? You do realize that the latter is stiffer competition, I hope.

[HeartAttack]

So your point rests on the fact that Haye beat Mormeck and Enzo, instead of McCall and Virchis? You do realize that the latter is stiffer competition, I hope.

Wow, sheep can't seem to learn. This is a sad sad day when people can't understand the difference between the signifigance of of champions moving up and guys who are just contenders vying for a paper title. Thats fine, Im tired of trying to educate at the moment. Haye/Klitschko means more to the division now then Gomez/Klitschko. That has nothing to say about who Gomez has beaten or who has the better chances or so on and so forth.

[kayjay]

Wow, sheep can't seem to learn. This is a sad sad day when people can't understand the difference between the signifigance of of champions moving up and guys who are just contenders vying for a paper title. Thats fine, Im tired of trying to educate at the moment. Haye/Klitschko means more to the division now then Gomez/Klitschko. That has nothing to say about who Gomez has beaten or who has the better chances or so on and so forth.

Your case for "champions moving up" rests in he fact that Haye was "world" champ at CW whereas Gomez merely held the WBC title for ten defenses. But that distinction is fairly meaningless. Haye did not unify and dominate the CW division, he only won a life-and-death struggle with Mormeck and beat a protected Welshman. His "moving up" carries no more significance than Gomez's.

Gomez has proven himself against one of the toughest HWs in the world in Virchis. He EARNED his shot at a title. Haye might do so soon, but hasn't yet.

[HeartAttack]

Your case for "champions moving up" rests in he fact that Haye was "world" champ at CW whereas Gomez merely held the WBC title for ten defenses. But that distinction is fairly meaningless. Haye did not unify and dominate the CW division, he only won a life-and-death struggle with Mormeck and beat a protected Welshman. His "moving up" carries no more significance than Gomez's.

Gomez has proven himself against one of the toughest HWs in the world in Virchis. He EARNED his shot at a title. Haye might do so soon, but hasn't yet.

there is no unification when there is only one champ in a division. your weight on the trinket belts is far too great. Gomez fought in a weak time when the only memorable bout of his era was Jirov/Toney. Im not discrediting Gomez as a fighter, he could have made a much greater impact had he stayed off of *******, however, he is less important to the credibility, exposure, and entertainment value of the heavyweight division than Haye is. Haye was actually a champion, which holds more credence than many people understand. Whether or not you liked Mormeck (I do) or Maccarinelli (I don't) or McCall (old, I don't) or Virchis (powerful, I do) doesn't negate the fact that only boxing insiders know Gomez and millions know Haye (including the 20 men he supposedly slept with). Like I said this isn't a discussion about who would win between Haye and Gomez, its about who means more to the heavyweights right now, and Haye win or lose means more by his previous accomplishments (something Gomez nor either Klitschko brother has done) and by his worldwide exposure. I put the argument out about Haye actually being a champion to prove that if you are a true champion at a lower weightclass your importance supercedes any contender at an above weightclass if they aren't the universal number one or aren't a former great or champion themselves. Gomez fits none of those categories and while haye is not great and never will be, he has earned his right because of the aforementioned world title.

[Boxing_Girl23]

The Southpaw stance with give Klitschko problems, much like Corey sanders did with and took him 8 rounds to complete the job, so I see this fight going into the 9th round but Gomez getting worn down by Klitschko's weight and power and falling late in the 9th or early 10th round.

[WLAD_OWNS]

JC Gomez is the most underrated heavyweight in the world, he is a tougher opponent than Haye. It's good to see Gomez finally get a title shot, he deserves it.

Vitali by KO

[Hayehammer]

That is gonna be an easy fight for vitali! Gomez footwork is terrible and hes not protecting! He is gonna eat every jab vitali throws on him you will see!
And the the right hand is gonna blow him away!

Its end of 2009 David haye vs vitali klitschko both with all belts!

[The Hammer]

The Southpaw stance with give Klitschko problems, much like Corey sanders did with and took him 8 rounds to complete the job, so I see this fight going into the 9th round but Gomez getting worn down by Klitschko's weight and power and falling late in the 9th or early 10th round.

This is an accurate analysis/prediction.

JC Gomez is a much better fighter and more difficult opponent than David Haye. Gomez has a decent chin and slick boxing skills. JC wouldn't have been knocked down and almost stopped by the super middleweight Mock, nor stopped by the 41 year old light heavyweight Thompson.

[Johnny Awesome]

I do not know much at all about Gomez, does he have a realistic shot at defeating Vitali?

[Guest]

there is no unification when there is only one champ in a division. your weight on the trinket belts is far too great. Gomez fought in a weak time when the only memorable bout of his era was Jirov/Toney. Im not discrediting Gomez as a fighter, he could have made a much greater impact had he stayed off of *******, however, he is less important to the credibility, exposure, and entertainment value of the heavyweight division than Haye is. Haye was actually a champion, which holds more credence than many people understand. Whether or not you liked Mormeck (I do) or Maccarinelli (I don't) or McCall (old, I don't) or Virchis (powerful, I do) doesn't negate the fact that only boxing insiders know Gomez and millions know Haye (including the 20 men he supposedly slept with). Like I said this isn't a discussion about who would win between Haye and Gomez, its about who means more to the heavyweights right now, and Haye win or lose means more by his previous accomplishments (something Gomez nor either Klitschko brother has done) and by his worldwide exposure. I put the argument out about Haye actually being a champion to prove that if you are a true champion at a lower weightclass your importance supercedes any contender at an above weightclass if they aren't the universal number one or aren't a former great or champion themselves. Gomez fits none of those categories and while haye is not great and never will be, he has earned his right because of the aforementioned world title.

I agree with kayjay et al that Gomez deserves this shot because of his aforementioned victories at heavyweight.
Haye beat Barrett and needs to do more than that to fight for a heavyweight title.
Both guys were excellent cruisers. Gomez was unbeatable and Haye only had one bad night early in his career.
Gomez has done more at heavyweight to merit a shot.
There's no reason to think Haye won't get a shot after paying some more dues at heavy.

I am glad JC Gomez is finally getting his chance.