Anything at all bad about Erik Morales??

[evilp0ptart]

Hyperion translated it for me once...

In boxing, rivalries last forever.

And then he added in **** your mother at the end, which is just soooo childish, and soooo tight at the same time.

That's just because it sounds so much cooler in spanish.

[iron mike]

i wish we could have seen against naz although i think his straight accurate punches would of destroyed the prince
a legend who is missed today and pity he had so many wars and we missed out on a few more years of his career

[Ishy Aytan]

Which fight did you guys prefer?

Morales-Barerra 1,2 or 3?

[THe TRiNiTY]

As a fighter, if he would have had JUST a bit better of defense, he would have been nearly perfect. In terms of as a person, he was a bit of a prick.

I remember reading an interview once where he stated that if you live in America, even if you were born in Mexico, you're no longer Mexican.

[Fox McCloud]

I agree with that as well, I hate it when people (internet warriors) talk about how certain fighters are ***** because they "quit." It is 100% guaranteed that if any of these people were to step in the ring with any of these legends, they wouldn't last out the first round, much less last long enough for people to say they quit.

The worst thing I've ever heard is someone made a thread that Barrera is more of a warrior than Morales, because at least he didn't quit against Pacquaio in the second fight.

The point was made that Barrera quit before the Pacquiao fight started, and he was just trying not to get KO'd in that fight. People just said, well figurative quitting is much more excusable than literal quitting.

That makes less than 0 sense to me. One guy gives it his all and goes down in flames, and he is more criticized than the guy who comes in playing it safe, and trying to salvage any type of victory that he can, since he isn't even trying to get the true victory out of the match.

calm down ryan, i dont discredit erik, or cotto for that matter for basically giving in...

cotto to me is much more understandable, he was beaten, and badly, there was nothing he could of done, and i realize this... ive never talked down on cotto for giving up.

But when Morales wen tdown, he just sat there... and looked around... for getting paid MILLIONS of dollars... if you can get up.... get up.

Cotto could have gotten up. He got to his feet, didn't he?

He has as much of a chance to win as Morales did at that point, which was literally 0.

The only difference is, Morales was old, so he just had to take a lot less punishment in order to get to the point of no return than Cotto did.

[evilp0ptart]

Which fight did you guys prefer?

Morales-Barerra 1,2 or 3?

Haven't seen any of them yet, but the DVD's are on their way to my house right now.

[Fox McCloud]

That's just because it sounds so much cooler in spanish.

Lol, I'm just a fan of the cheap shot afterthought personal attack in arguments.

Which fight did you guys prefer?

Morales-Barerra 1,2 or 3?

I am probably alone, but... 2.

1 was just a brawl with too little skill for my taste.

3 was great, but Morales didn't show up enough to make it really competitive to the point of a great fight. Barrera straight kicked his ass that night... I didn't think that fight was very close, and I'm incredulous that people think Paul Smith's 114-114 scorecard is a good win. That win was as clear as day IMO.

As a fighter, if he would have had JUST a bit better of defense, he would have been nearly perfect. In terms of as a person, he was a bit of a prick.

I remember reading an interview once where he stated that if you live in America, even if you were born in Mexico, you're no longer Mexican.

Some Mexicans have some really weird ideas about national identity. He's not alone.

[Fox McCloud]

Haven't seen any of them yet, but the DVD's are on their way to my house right now.

Take a day off, and watch all 3 in a row. Literally going to be one of the best days of your life.

It really will contend with the day you lost your ******ity. They are THAT good.

[krispy kreme]

"I do have some extra motivation for this fight, because of what happened between my brother and Velardez when they fought and because he showed no sportsmanship during his stay in Tijuana, he disrespected our city, our fans and my brother so I will teach him a few lessons when me meet in the ring on May 3", said Morales, 26, and a hero to his native Tijuana.

That would explain it.

[THE REED]

The worst thing I've ever heard is someone made a thread that Barrera is more of a warrior than Morales, because at least he didn't quit against Pacquaio in the second fight.

The point was made that Barrera quit before the Pacquiao fight started, and he was just trying not to get KO'd in that fight. People just said, well figurative quitting is much more excusable than literal quitting.

That makes less than 0 sense to me. One guy gives it his all and goes down in flames, and he is more criticized than the guy who comes in playing it safe, and trying to salvage any type of victory that he can, since he isn't even trying to get the true victory out of the match.



Cotto could have gotten up. He got to his feet, didn't he?

He has as much of a chance to win as Morales did at that point, which was literally 0.

The only difference is, Morales was old, so he just had to take a lot less punishment in order to get to the point of no return than Cotto did.

true.. it was basically the end of the round, 10 more seconds he would of gotten a full 60 seconds of sit down time, and some cut management... he could of possibly played keep away and pot shotted for two more rounds... but i think thats what he tried doing the whole fight.. combo MOVE.. combo MOVE... but he was hurting, swollen, cut bleeding, exhausted, his body was beaten.. cotto was understandable...

Morales pretty much came to the conclusion, im not gonna win this fight, so i might as well just sit here... and when u get millions of dollars in a paycheck... get up and TRY...

its not fair to throw at me the fact that im not a fighter and i dont know whats its like.. because i can also throw back.. your right IM NOT a fighter.. i didnt choose that profession... he did... he chose to sign for the fight.. he chose accept millions of dollars... and he just sat there and shook his head.. i didnt like that...

but with that said all respect to morales, i know he was older, and had been through tons of wars during his reign, hes an ATG... and deserves all the respect... my only quarrel was... he could of gotten up.