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Roach: "Sorry Mayweather, Pacquiao Knocks Hatton Out"
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Originally posted by americanme View PostRoach had Manny to train for the biggest fight of his life..on a big PPV
Just like when he trained Oscar for the FMJ fight..he made Oscar his priority.
Hopkins is hardly his guy. he trained him for two fights and he went 1-1..
You cant blame a trainer if the fighter loses.. they have to mesh.. there has to be some chemistry between the two.
You calling Freddi names is classes.
Listen, other than Pacquiao, name a good fighter of prominence that he has trained to a big victory. Go.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostProbably worse than it was meant to be. I haven't slept in over 24 hours.
Idk, he just doesn't seem like a very good trainer, and is just boring as hell. Even when he talks ****, he's boring.
Just not a fan at all.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostOkay. You are obviously as objective as they come.
It's pretty clear why you hate Witter now... Hatton fanboys generally don't like Junior Witter.
Personally i don't think someone is close to being Ko'd unless they are
1. On the canvas Or,
2. backs to the rope hanging on for dear life Or,
3. saved by the bell when just about to go down.
Hatton was none of these in either fight, neither was Malinaggi and it was a terrible choise by the corner to pull him out.
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the reason people think this fight will be competative is because they think Manny is the same fighter that even fought Marquez, only his oponents suck and it makes him look good. WRONG.
Pacquiao has simply got much better and has hit his prime, he slips and fights very unorthodox, AND he has featherweight speed at welterweight...don't know how he managed that.
For the person who said Pacquiao didn't knock Oscar out, any fool can see he would have. He even knocked Oscar down but the ropes held him up. he would have battered De La Hoya.
Personally i don't think someone is close to being Ko'd unless they are
1. On the canvas Or,
2. backs to the rope hanging on for dear life Or,
3. saved by the bell when just about to go down.
Hatton was none of these in either fight, neither was Malinaggi and it was a terrible choise by the corner to pull him out.
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Originally posted by Enemy/Friend View PostMaybe he sounds boring because he has Parkinsons disease which slurs his speech. You really can't doubt his training ability considering Pacman used to be a jab striaght left,jab straight left fighter and now he is just about complete in all departments. Sure Manny is the one utilizing his defense and punch variation but Freddy must of had something to do with it. Pacquiao looks up to his trainer as a father figure,they probably have the best relationship between a fighter and trainer in all of boxing. That leads to success in the ring. Richardson has a great relationship with Hop so that would explain his new vigor and dedication. He should of been the head trainer not Roach.
And I said other than Pacquiao, that is his only fighter that he has trained well. Easy to do when it's the best fighter in the world I think.
Originally posted by hammerhiem View PostI've never claim to be anything other than a Hatton fanboy, but I am objective, you think getting hit and stubbling a couple of paces is close to Ko'd? then Malinaggi was close to being KO'd in every round past the first against Hatton last fight.
Personally i don't think someone is close to being Ko'd unless they are
1. On the canvas Or,
2. backs to the rope hanging on for dear life Or,
3. saved by the bell when just about to go down.
Hatton was none of these in either fight, neither was Malinaggi and it was a terrible choise by the corner to pull him out.
And yes, the fact that literally everyone has disagreed with you so far means that you are obviously not objective on the subject of Hatton.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostThe way people form words with their mouths is not my criteria for boring. The actual words that come out of his mouth make boring sentences.
And I said other than Pacquiao, that is his only fighter that he has trained well. Easy to do when it's the best fighter in the world I think.
So which of your three criteria does Malignaggi meet in every round other than the first?
And yes, the fact that literally everyone has disagreed with you so far means that you are obviously not objective on the subject of Hatton.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostClassless, me calling Freddie names is classless. I think that's what you meant anyway.
Listen, other than Pacquiao, name a good fighter of prominence that he has trained to a big victory. Go.
James Toney UD over undefeated IBF crusierweight champion Vassily Jirov. 30-0
The fight seemed very close going into the last two rounds and after the eleventh, which Jirov appeared to win, Freddie Roach told his man, “You’ve got to put him on his back!” In the final three minutes of warfare Toney tried his best to do just that. The crowd was at fever pitch, they couldn’t have asked for a more action packed and exciting fight.
This was value for money all the way and any boxing junkie in need of a fix could have done far worse than be in attendance for this one, the slugfest put on here was boxing at its very best. With the crowd on its feet a left hook to the body followed by two rights to the head finally put Jirov down. As Roach had demanded, Toney was closing the show with a big round.
Roach is a hell of a trainer.. dont you forget it.
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So which of your three criteria does Malignaggi meet in every round other than the first?
Malinaggi in Round two was 10x more in trouble than hatton in either of the two fights I mentioned and he was not close to being KO'd.
Hurt does not =/= nearly KO'd.
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Originally posted by hammerhiem View PostI've never claim to be anything other than a Hatton fanboy, but I am objective, you think getting hit and stubbling a couple of paces is close to Ko'd? then Malinaggi was close to being KO'd in every round past the first against Hatton last fight.
Personally i don't think someone is close to being Ko'd unless they are
1. On the canvas Or,
2. backs to the rope hanging on for dear life Or,
3. saved by the bell when just about to go down.
Hatton was none of these in either fight, neither was Malinaggi and it was a terrible choise by the corner to pull him out.
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