Calzaghe has Done More for the Sport of Boxing than Mayweather

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Hamed has done more for boxing than calzaghe or floyd

[bsrizpac]

So he isnt really good? ..

My bad, I forgot you are talking about the guy who beat the twin terrors of Richard and Otis grant back to back.

Clearly I was mistaken.

[americanme]

MW > SMW.

Roy has stated and has HBO that they left because there was little competition at SMW.

Are you really trying to say that SMW > MW ?

It's a joke division basically with the occasional star treating it like a pit stop some good to borderline very good fighters here and there and then pure **** beneath that.

Sorry I disagree. jT AND rJJ DIDNT TREAT it like a pit stop. 10 plus fights isnt a pit stop.

[americanme]

My bad, I forgot you are talking about the guy who beat the twin terrors of Richard and Otis grant back to back.

Clearly I was mistaken.

If you dont feel he is really good then that's your opinion. I cant argue your opinion. I feel he is really good.

[bsrizpac]

it was the same he even broke hopkins record of defenses
except calzaghe opposition was more unknown
yet hopkins biggest wins are glorified former welters and he didnt manage to stay undefeated unlike joe

True who can forget such great fighters like:


Evans Ashira
Mario Veit
Kabary Salem
Mger Mkrtchian
Byron Mitchell
Tocker Pudwill
Miguel Angel Jimenez
Charles Brewer
Will McIntyre
Mario Veit
Richie Woodhall
Omar Sheika
David Starie
Rick Thornberry
Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra

A murderers row if I ever saw one.

[Enemy/Friend]

it was the same he even broke hopkins record of defenses
except calzaghe opposition was more unknown
yet hopkins biggest wins are glorified former welters and he didnt manage to stay undefeated unlike joe

During hopkins 20 title defenses only 4 of his opponents were never in the top 10 ring magazine rankings at that weight. 1 of them was glen johnson by the way.

And look out of calzaghes 21 title defenses 13 of his opponents were never in the top 10 ring magazine rankings. And manfredo actually was in the top 10 at some point showing how terrible that division really is.

Are you gonna say the ring magazine rankings are **** and biased against euros? Maybe the wbo rankings are a lot better since they have dead guys ranked and gary lockett as the number 1 middleweight.

Daggum dug this up....

[bsrizpac]

During hopkins 20 title defenses only 4 of his opponents were never in the top 10 ring magazine rankings at that weight. 1 of them was glen johnson by the way.

And look out of calzaghes 21 title defenses 13 of his opponents were never in the top 10 ring magazine rankings. And manfredo actually was in the top 10 at some point showing how terrible that division really is.

Are you gonna say the ring magazine rankings are **** and biased against euros? Maybe the wbo rankings are a lot better since they have dead guys ranked and gary lockett as the number 1 middleweight.

Daggum dug this up....

Ding ding ding.

WBO = true measure of a champion.

[bsrizpac]

Unknown to who? I know them quite well, speak for yourself.

Hopkins' wins are simply better, at middle and above. End of story.

It's not that Will Mcintyre or David Starie are unknown- it's that they are ****.

[americanme]

It's not that Will Mcintyre or David Starie are unknown- it's that they are ****.

lol.. Ill give you that.

[IMDAZED]

It's not that Will Mcintyre or David Starie are unknown- it's that they are ****.

Just a new excuse, that's all. Actually, not even that new.

"You just never heard of them!"

Yeah right. Funny how unknown always means equal or greater than the "known" fighter.