Welterweights Need To Forget About Manny, and Move On

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  • JAS_JAS
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    #51
    Originally posted by King Burner II
    He loses to Quitana..Collazo..Berto..Cintron..Cotto...Williams ..Margarito...Floyd...Clottey...and Mosley.

    Thats ten buddy boy.
    i dont think he looses to collazo, and has a chance at an aging mosley?

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      #52
      Originally posted by MaYaN_SuN
      lol Why cause you know Manny will lose? Ok...

      But when is this guy gonna fight a guy who can hit him em back? Oh, he doesnt have to fight a guy who can hit him back? lol Why didn't you just say so from the begining..
      another hater, get over it your boy lost

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      • xcaret
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        #53
        Originally posted by King Burner II
        Some idiot posters on this site said that Manny could use and Beat Berto as a tune up.



        WTF?

        Manny loses to EVERY top 10 welter.
        exactly



        ****** pinoys need to stop fantasizing, he will get schooled by mayweather possibly knocks him out

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        • Kris Silver
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          #54
          I think Manny could hold his own at 147 better than some think. He'd beat a few of the top guys, namely the smaller ones, imo. To say he loses against them all just seems to be going too far.

          There's been mentions of if smaller guys can hurt him than top WW's would stop him. I really have a problem with such a simplistic approach I'm afraid. JMM never really hurt pacman that badly, and regardless Pac carries the weight very well.

          He looked very solid and held a good account of himself at 147 even if it was against a weight drained ODL. He was pretty darn natural at the weight, and guys rise in weigh well all the time, Floyd can take an ok punch at 147, you don't see many people saying if much smaller guys could hurt him occasionally WW's would kill him. It's like the Carl Thompson hurting David Haye thing. A good punch at a weight, is a good punch.

          After all that's said and done, size is a factor in a fight for sure; but it is still simply but one factor of many.
          Last edited by Kris Silver; 12-28-2008, 12:46 PM.

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          • boxing2106
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            #55
            im sick on hearing just one fighter hyped like this. boxing needs to have more then a few fighters hyped to bring back sum casual fans

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            • FLY TY
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              #56
              Originally posted by FasTHarD
              Pacman >>>> Cinton, Quintana, Collazo, Mosley, Berto... You heard it first...


              Chicken Floyd already retires..

              Williams do not belong to WW....
              Originally posted by Flawless.
              And Margarito does???
              Originally posted by FasTHarD
              Margarito is more acceptable in WW than that 6'2/6'3" with 82" reach advantage Williams...
              Originally posted by Flawless.
              Boxing is not based on reach or height idiot. Its about weight
              you can always tell a margarito fan by the way they post. now their using "PW is not a WW anymore" as a reason to dq him from any fight that can be made at that weight. PW has always stated he'd fight anybody, AT ANY WEIGHT. if somebody steps up at WW, he's already stated he'd come down the 8 lbs.

              being 6'2 and having an 82 inch reach is irrelevant to your post. if he can make 147 the day before the fight, he can be as tall as he wants, and have a reach as long as he wants. he's a freak at 147, hell even at 154, if you ask me, but he can make either weight so......time for the top names to step up.

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              • FLY TY
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                #57
                Originally posted by KrisSilver
                I think Manny could hold his own at 147 better than some think. He'd beat a few of the top guys, namely the smaller ones, imo. To say he loses against them all just seems to be going too far.

                There's been mentions of if smaller guys can hurt him than top WW's would stop him. I really have a problem with such a simplistic approach I'm afraid. JMM never really hurt pacman that badly, and regardless Pac carries the weight very well.

                He looked very solid and held a good account of himself at 147 even if it was against a weight drained ODL. He was pretty darn natural at the weight, and guys rise in weigh well all the time, Floyd can take an ok punch at 147, you don't see many people saying if much smaller guys could hurt him occasionally WW's would kill him. It's like the Carl Thompson hurting David Haye thing. A good punch at a weight, is a good punch.

                After all that's said and done, size is a factor in a fight for sure; but it is still simply but one factor of many.
                cosign. calling him an underdog is one thing.....but to say he definitely loses to guys like mosley, berto, quintana, collazo seems a bit unfair to me too. i'd actually make him the favorite against any of those fighters. margarito and cotto would be tough, but i wouldn't count him out. manny should stay away from mayweather and PW tho.....

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                • trainhard_187
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by xcaret
                  exactly



                  ****** pinoys need to stop fantasizing, he will get schooled by mayweather possibly knocks him out
                  Dude your credibility is lost every time you post. So dont bother giving your opinion cause your seriously making yourself look like a fool.

                  You emphasized Pac would get killed against DLH, I remember reading your anti-Pac post. Your just a hater now all over Mayweather who is again RETIRED so stop acting like your a fan of his.

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                  • trainhard_187
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by boxing2106
                    im sick on hearing just one fighter hyped like this. boxing needs to have more then a few fighters hyped to bring back sum casual fans
                    This is a Pac post and Pac is the man on top. Im pretty sure from all the analysts and experts that Pac's victory isnt just hype.

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                    • ferocity
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                      #60
                      Chicken Pacquiao!

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