Pacquiao vs. Hatton Will Be Brutal, Says Smith

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  • solo20
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    #31
    Hatton gets stop on cuts you heard it first here

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    • The Noose
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      #32
      Originally posted by Makavelli
      bob please, lets not get into a 'who-has-pac-beat' vs 'who-has-ricky-beat' argument...it would get foolish



      and when i think if hatton-PAC, the oscar fight is NOT what i use to judge...rather, its his difficulties vs speedy fighters and southpaws...two traits that PAC has
      Oh, im not trying to make it into that type of comparison.

      You were laughing at how Hatton fans are comparing Hattons win over Tzsyu to how he will beat Pac. But just as many people are doing the same but with Pacs wins over Diaz and Oscar, both IMO arent comparable to Hatton.

      Im just saying it works both ways.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Bob Anomaly
        Oh, im not trying to make it into that type of comparison.

        You were laughing at how Hatton fans are comparing Hattons win over Tzsyu to how he will beat Pac. But just as many people are doing the same but with Pacs wins over Diaz and Oscar, both IMO arent comparable to Hatton.

        Im just saying it works both ways.



        like who bro? point them out to me and i will join you in clowning those posters...THE ONLY thing i got out of the Diaz and Oscam fight is how PAC would handle the extra weight...and i got my answer...



        like i said, my assumptions for a ricky-manny showdown is based on how each has performed against fighters with similar traits


        ricky is a come-forward fighter that has difficulties with southpaws and speedy fighters...that's my point


        yet i see a bunch of 'if the ricky that fought kostya shows up' arguments...i mean, what da **** does that mean? he brings his ref from manchester and manny pretends to fight like a one-armed stationary target? does manny pretend do be a clinch-station? i dont get it....

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          #34
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          like who bro? point them out to me and i will join you in clowning those posters...THE ONLY thing i got out of the Diaz and Oscam fight is how PAC would handle the extra weight...and i got my answer...



          like i said, my assumptions for a ricky-manny showdown is based on how each has performed against fighters with similar traits


          ricky is a come-forward fighter that has difficulties with southpaws and speedy fighters...that's my point


          yet i see a bunch of 'if the ricky that fought kostya shows up' arguments...i mean, what da **** does that mean? he brings his ref from manchester and manny pretends to fight like a one-armed stationary target? does manny pretend do be a clinch-station? i dont get it....
          Same here. I thought the main thing in Pacs last fights were how well he has carried his speed, power and movement. The Oscar win seems more like Calzaghe's win over Jones.

          I cant name individual posters saying comparing Diaz to Hatton, i think its been more a general feeling that Pacs last 2 opponents somehow tells us how he will beat Hatton. Which i dont believe.

          It does tell us Pac is gonna be fast, and hit hard enough to hurt Hatton. But i dont think we will know who is gonna do more damage and fight their fight until the 1st round. I think its a battle of wills.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Bob Anomaly
            Same here. I thought the main thing in Pacs last fights were how well he has carried his speed, power and movement. The Oscar win seems more like Calzaghe's win over Jones.
            nah, oscar has a considerable size advantage but he didn't use it to his advantage. jones and calz are about the same size. also imho both a prime jones and calz are greater than oscar.

            I cant name individual posters saying comparing Diaz to Hatton, i think its been more a general feeling that Pacs last 2 opponents somehow tells us how he will beat Hatton. Which i dont believe.
            I agree. Hatton is better than Diaz and is fresher than Oscar.

            It does tell us Pac is gonna be fast, and hit hard enough to hurt Hatton. But i dont think we will know who is gonna do more damage and fight their fight until the 1st round. I think its a battle of wills.
            Nah, I don't think it will be a battle of wills, but a battle of strength. If hatton doesn't use his strength he will lose decisively imho.

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              #36
              WTF? are you out of your mind? you have to consider Kostya was 35 years old & Hatton was young around 27 years old. Come on, be realistic here.

              How did you came up w/ your thinking as a trainer?
              I say Hatton cant stop the Pacman express. trust me when i tell you.
              Pacman will not just stand there w/ the rushing hooks of Hatton or his bullying tactics. Pacman & Roach has that formula already. You saw the Pacquiao-Lucero fight? Thats could be the stance Pacquiao will use some of it.

              Hatton cannot even knockout Paulie Malignaggi & the neophyte Urango. Hatton almost get knockout by Lazcano in 8th & 10th rounds. if the ref did not help him, he might get KO by the nobody Lazcano and to think, Lazcano was out of the ring for more than a year before they fought.
              Come on, do your homework, son before you will predict w/c is w/c, okay.

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                #37
                Most of these rookie analysts thinks Hatton's 450 kg punch force in UK lab outpowers Pacquiao's power punch which in fact there are only slight difference between them in terms of punch forces only. In fact, Manny's speed and precision combined with punch force compare to Hatton's punch power is far more lethal. Manny's left hand is like an atomic bomb when he launches it because it will have a devastating effect on his opponent and it was very evident on his execution to all Mexican legends. Many believes Manny's speed and endurance makes him a very difficult fighter but most of them disregard his power maybe because it was overshadowed by it which in fact his left hand power is the one responsible of his almost invulnerability.

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                  Tell me, have you all followed Manny's journey to all his fight before Oscar and Diaz!?! If yes, did you observe he is much faster, quicker, powerful and has more endurance as he gains weight? Manny is the most unique boxer I've ever seen because he combines speed, power and endurance at the same time with a boxing tactics that cannot be comprehend. When he attacks or defend, he not only use mind games but both mind games and instinct. Sometimes his approch is decided with his mind and sometimes his instinct. As an opponent, how can you predict his movements and knows that he is using his mind or instincts? I say it again, Dela Hoya lose the fight not because of improper conditioning of weight per say but its his strategy to analyze Manny which he didn't that lead him beaten up like he didn't even fight Manny. You cannot analyze Manny but you can take advantage of Manny's weakness. Manny and all Southpaws have problems in common to those boxers who is very good in counter punching. It was very evident on his rematch against Marquez, it was a very close fight that if Marquez was not knocked out on the fight, he probably won through decision. Although that fight against him was not a properly trained Pacquiao because Manny was very busy on his extra curricular activities at that time that lead him at 70% condition. But if Marquez persue again for another rematch and Manny will properly trained as he did against Dela Hoya, Marquez will be knocked out for good. In my own point of view, the only tough opponent Manny will faced even though he will trained very hard before the fight, it would be "Pretty Boy Floyd". Floyd Jr. is a very good counter punch tactics. His powerful counter punch makes you hesitate to attack because if he hits you at the right place you'll probably get knocked out or get groogy that will lead him for furious attacks and eventually you will get knocked out. Also his defense is very good and it is difficult for you to attack because his shoulder shield is like captain america's vibranium-steel alloy armor which is very difficult to get over the hump. If Pacquiao-Mayweather fight will become reality I'll give Mayweather the advantage 70/30 odd basing on their skills. And if all factors will be included such as support, I'll give Manny 50.5/49.5 chance to win because Countries support can make Manny the better fighter beyond expectation that will lead him to be his best fight performance of his entire carreer against the undefeated "pretty boy mayweather". Manny is the man who is destined to beat Mayweather...

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                    #39
                    Pac takes this one. Manny's power, quickness and aggressive style beats Hatton in the late rounds. If Hatton had a hard time with the "thuds" from Collazo, something tells me he won't hold up to well when Manny starts connecting with those power shots!

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                    • Squabbles94806
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                      #40
                      Duude, i don't even want to speak on it. I'm a Ricky Hatton fan and Pacquiao's my hero. But as soon as i open my mouth regarding Hatton or any UK boxer, some pissy brit gets their knickers in a bunch and starts spreading negative K points.

                      Hatton is wide looping brawler who comes str8 in with power punches. Grabbing or clinching when he's inside and throws body shots. Yes he has power, but ya gotta understand Pacquiao loves dog fights. He gets down....waaay down when it comes to scrappin.

                      It's funny that nobody can see the minor adjustments Mayweather introduced Hatton to. Everyone says that Hatton is the same fighter. You're wrong. I was actually discussing it with my friend today, who happens to be a fellow martial artist, and we were talking about his head movement and the angle he was fighting in. Why do you think Malinaggi had a hard time boxing him? And it's no secret that Paulie's Boxing skills are far superior than Hatton, but Hatton made Malinaggi quit right?

                      Pacquiao on the other hand, that's a totally different story.

                      Pacquiao isn't a thinking fighter like Muhammad Ali for example. Pacman fights on killer instincts. But he too as a boxer is developing into something dangerous.

                      Hatton vs. Pacquiao should be an exciting one regardless what the outcome is. But i do want Pacquiao to win because he's my hero.

                      Fair enough?

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