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    upinurgirlsguts
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    #141
    You don't need to make these kind of threads just to ensure Mayweather gets credit for the win. Pac is the current P4P king who preformed incredibly at WW and has a great resume. No one in their right mind would discredit a win against Pac except 1 or 2 people.

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    • KostyaTszyu44
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      #142
      Originally posted by Silencers
      Can he still make those weights? Doubtful without affecting himself badly. Pacquiao can make 135 without much difficulty at all, it's his best weight. Mayweather is probably a natural welterweight now, a natural junior welterweight at the least.
      no way is floyd a natural welterweight now

      natural jr welter....yeah maybe

      id say floyd can still make 135

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        #143
        Originally posted by Flawless.
        Who said fight going to be at WW?? Catch weight or 140
        mayweather still has more experience at 135+
        So whats your point?

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          #144
          Originally posted by Clegg
          You are trying to convince people that they should believe that Pacquiao will win, even though you believe that he will lose.

          Everyone can see what you are trying to do. Nobody is fooled. You are a joke.
          I agree with you, no matter what flawless does people will not be convinced

          Floyd is the most hated fighter on the forum, People will not give him credit no matter who he beats ( Not all people, a select few ) Flaw is trying to milk all the credit he can from a Floyd win.

          In all fairness though Floyd and Pac are closer in weight than Floyd and Marg and yet some posters criticise Floyd for fighting Pac ( Which i can't see why as its a fight between the two best boxers on the planet, a rare occurance in the sport) and want him to fight Marg

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #145
            Originally posted by Brandish
            sorry your assertion doesn't hold water..floyd is 18-0 in championship fights pac is 6-3....floyd has 12 title defenses pac has 5...floyd has defeated 5 future Hofers pac has defeated 3...there is no way under any criteria pacquiao can be considered greater.
            where do you get your ****** facts from?

            pac has 10 official title fights. he's 8-0-2.

            not including his ring title fights at 126.

            pac also has fought 4 first ballot HOFers not 3. he's 6-1-1 against barrera , marquez , morales and delahoya.

            who is floyd first ballot HOFers? hernandez? he was not a first ballot HOFer. i don't think he's even in yet is he? castillo and corrales? maybe first ballot but probably not. who else? hatton? probably HOFer but not first ballot.

            oscar is floyd's only opponent that will be a first ballot HOFer for sure. pacquiao has a win over him too.

            hernandez , castillo , corrales , hatton and maybe even gatti will probably get in but manny is fighting ricky too.

            manny is 6-1-1 against first ballot HOFers.

            floyd is 7-0-0 against 1 first ballot HOFers and 5 possible HOFers.

            don't try to make floyd's resume look much better than pacquiao's. it's not. people that know boxing knows this.
            Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 12-26-2008, 05:50 PM.

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            • Horus
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              #146
              Flawless the reality of the situation is this.
              Critics and Fans will all agree that Floyd will never be a underdog a fight under 154 pounds and maybe a fight under 160 pounds if he demanded all fights will have same day weigh in's..

              Floyd is the greatest of this era .
              For the simple fact that people know Floyd is always going to
              capitalize on his opponents weakness, and he has the skill to do it,
              and the mindset that "he would rather win a long technical decision and WIN, rather
              then lose a exciting war."



              reguardless weight from 154 on down.

              Pacquaio as great as he is, has Wide Open Flaws, and they are overlooked
              because he is action fighter, who is really the first of his kind to come out of the Asia Continent.


              Manny Pacquaio as of right now belongs in every catergory Floyd Mayweather
              jr is in although not better than floyd yet and quite accomplish, Manny can soon pass floyd up as the greatest fighter of this generation including Floyd if he continue doing what he is doing. Think about this,
              • * Manny Pacquaio has fought in three divisions in one year.


              Manny and Floyd have both proven that "Size doesnt win fights" Smarts and Ability win fights, and their collective dominance over the sport in the last 10 years stands side by side. Although Manny hasnt fought as many prime pound 4 pound fighters as Floyd has and has not been a champion for 10 years like Floyd or he isnt 20-0 in championship fights.

              Manny has proven he greatness
              by destroying almost every great fighter put in front of him. Some say
              Manny is being OVER HYPED right now, but he deserves it, He OVER PERFORMED...



              Fight Fans love Brawlers more than boxers thats just how it is...

              Although Pacquaio has improved greatly from his early career into a more sound boxer, the fight fans still see him as a brawler who will go in their and throw punches regardless of the style.


              BUT HERE IS THE THING!!!


              Fight fans are not ******.

              Everybody Knows It is going to be very hard for any Fighter Floyd's size to beat him.

              One Reason: Skill


              Thats why they want him to fight BIG FIGHTERS like Margarito and Paul Williams because it is the common accepted perception that this is the only way Floyd's skill is really going to be tested because he wont be able stand in the middle of the ring and dominate like he did against Gatti, Judah,Hatton, Genero, and chavez.


              Manny being the Same size as Mayweather is the only thing Making Mayweather favorite, Because if manny was a 5'10 junior middle weight.
              better believe he would be the favorite...


              The truth of the matter is THE ONLY WAY MANNY CAN WIN IS ON
              "SKILL"

              and THE ONLY FIGHTER you cant beat on "SKILL" is Mayweather.


              This is why he is the favorite.

              Manny is the same size as him.!
              Last edited by Horus; 12-26-2008, 05:56 PM.

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              • Clegg
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                #147
                Originally posted by Real OG
                I agree with you, no matter what flawless does people will not be convinced

                Floyd is the most hated fighter on the forum, People will not give him credit no matter who he beats ( Not all people, a select few ) Flaw is trying to milk all the credit he can from a Floyd win.

                In all fairness though Floyd and Pac are closer in weight than Floyd and Marg and yet some posters criticise Floyd for fighting Pac ( Which i can't see why as its a fight between the two best boxers on the planet, a rare occurance in the sport) and want him to fight Marg
                Because Margarito is the best welterweight. Floyd wants to be the best at 147? He should prove it by fighting the best welterweight rather than the best lightweight.

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                • Flawless.
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Clegg
                  Because Margarito is the best welterweight. Floyd wants to be the best at 147? He should prove it by fighting the best welterweight rather than the best lightweight.
                  How is Pacman the best LW?? Name me one LW he beat that made him number one, fool

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                  • Horus
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    Because Margarito is the best welterweight. Floyd wants to be the best at 147? He should prove it by fighting the best welterweight rather than the best lightweight.
                    What do you think of Roy Jones Career?
                    and
                    Joe Calzaghe Career?

                    Do you think they are both Hofer's?

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                    • Clegg
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Flawless.
                      How is Pacman the best LW?? Name me one LW he beat that made him number one, fool
                      Good point. Mayweather would be fighting someone who is not even the best lightweight. That is even worse. Thanks for the input

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