Insider Notebook: Oscar's Weight Shocks, Pacquiao-Hatton

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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Insider Notebook: Oscar's Weight Shocks, Pacquiao-Hatton

    By Robert Morales - It was last Thursday, about 1 p.m. in Los Angeles. Richard Schaefer, CEO of Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, had just finished hosting a news conference to announce the signing of two-time featherweight champion Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero at the Golden Boy offices.

    As Guerrero and a few members of the Spanish-language media continued to talk in the conference room, Schaefer walked with this reporter to his office. After talking briefly about the proposed May 2 fight between Golden Boy's Ricky Hatton and Manny Pacquiao, the subject turned to De La Hoya.

    Why, Schaefer was asked, did De La Hoya look like he was 45 instead of 35 on Dec. 6 when he was stopped after eight rounds by Pacquiao, who was thought by many to be too small to have a strong chance of winning? "I know Oscar is probably not going to like what I'm going to say, but I'm going to say it anyway," Schaefer said. "First of all, Oscar will not make any excuses. And I don't want to make any excuses. The fact is Pacquiao turned in an amazing performance. He had the right strategy and he fought a very disciplined fight. He was not as wide and as wild as he usually is. You can't take away anything. But it was shocking to me to see how Oscar was." [details]
  • dondi330
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    AHhhhh weights are not important or size<<<-------sarcasm.

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    • badboypeenoy
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      I smell rematch.

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      • Silencers
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        More and more it seems as though DLH lost weight the wrong way, Rob Garcia is in charge of that stuff and it seems like he did a bad job, it was interesting to hear Chris Byrd say he suffered from the same thing as well when he moved down to 175, gaining only a few pounds from the weigh in to the time of the fight

        Good to hear Guerrero's wife is doing better.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          And you weren't even able to do that. And that is actually dangerous because what that might do is, if you don't have enough liquids you might get brain damage. And that's why I was so insisting he go to the (hospital) even though Oscar wanted to go to the post-fight press conference
          I hope Oscar and Richy learned their lesson to pay attention to history and not be greedy. Also, again, the ever "classy" Freddie Roach should be ashamed of himself for taking this fight at this weight. He said after the fight he knew what was likely to happen based on the history of other fighters that came back down in weight...well, you are an accomplice my friend. What if Oscar would have been seriously hurt. You my friend have Parkinsons...you should know better.

          Hall of Famer Carlos Palomino said in this space two weeks ago that it did not appear like De La Hoya had one carbohydrate in his system. Wallace echoed that sentiment.
          So it was an all protein diet?
          Any Fats?

          where is the energy source?
          You need CARBS if you are an athlete.



          Final curious thought: Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, said all along that should De La Hoya weigh one pound over the limit of 147, he would not let Pacquiao fight. It could be that De La Hoya gambled on some extreme measure to make sure there was no danger of that happening. Certainly, he would not want to suffer the same embarrassment that Jose Luis Castillo and the late Diego Corrales did when they weighed in several pounds over for a couple of fights. Had the fight been canceled, all those millions of dollars would have went down the drain, too
          Anybody else know that?

          More points lost for Freddie as well as Oscar for making this agreement.


          Freddie loves seeing Mexicans fry themselves for the weigh-in and then dying on the scales.

          I wonder if Freddie is seriously pissed off with his condition that he wants others to suffer as well.
          Last edited by Benny Leonard; 12-25-2008, 01:01 AM.

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          • dondi330
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            Man up!

            When will De La Hoe take responsibility for all his losses, he always or has someone take the blame, he loses a fight he blames his trainer, his corner, his conditioning coach....whose next ? His wife's food caused diarrhea? Sun was in my eyes? Shoelaces were loose? **** *****? Tight fitting women clothing? geez

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            • Chups
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              Roach's strategy of making Oscar cautious about the weight penalties paid off!!

              Oscar needed to prove something for himself, that he can take on Pacquiao on that weightclass. He took away his advantages, it was his own doing, he underestimated Manny.

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              • nathanmania
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                Originally posted by Chups
                Roach's strategy of making Oscar cautious about the weight penalties paid off!!

                Oscar needed to prove something for himself, that he can take on Pacquiao on that weightclass. He took away his advantages, it was his own doing, he underestimated Manny.
                that's why he got ****d....

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                • dondi330
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                  Originally posted by nathanmania
                  that's why he got ****d....
                  Hoya wasn't ****d! Maybe sodomized,pillaged and fondled but not ****d.

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                    Originally posted by dondi330
                    When will De La Hoe take responsibility for all his losses, he always or has someone take the blame, he loses a fight he blames his trainer, his corner, his conditioning coach....whose next ? His wife's food caused diarrhea? Sun was in my eyes? Shoelaces were loose? **** *****? Tight fitting women clothing? geez
                    Exactly!!!
                    Take the responsibility for your actions.
                    Remember Pac didnt go out looking for Oscar, Oscar was looking for a big farewell fight which was suppose to be Mayweather. Oscar even hired Dundee and Nacho to help him out which did not even matter.

                    Regardless of the weight loss the experts were saying:
                    Oscar is the better fighter
                    Oscar has fought better opposition
                    Oscar is the bigger guy (even with the weight loss his height was still their)
                    Oscar has the best left hook in the game
                    Oscar Jab this.....!!!!!

                    OSCAR's plan of picking on smaller fighters backfired.
                    His plan was to use his PPV name and cash in on as many fights before he hangs em up which next was suppose to be Ricky Hatton.

                    After this fight Larry Merchant quotes
                    "Oscar you said you did this to your self, what do you mean by that".

                    Oscar replys without answering the question "Manny is a great fighter".
                    Last edited by trainhard_187; 12-25-2008, 01:37 AM.

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